>Although Martins video work is great (as well as other efforts by, eg, Bob and >Brian) i persist in thinking that it is the ease of getting a useful J in the >hands of another which is the most important bottleneck.
>i got an introduction to the Iverson Notation 5 decades ago in an IBM dog and >pony show. i even got my 15 min of fame by introducing APL to Mathematical >Sociologists. But in those days setting up and using a language was easy: the >user did no setup, that was all handled by IBM. We just dove in and worked on >our own specialty, w/o having to be sysops too. >~touchquery is one such effort and may become useful and good. To be able to >refer someone in an elevator chat to a working instance of an industrial >strength is, i think, key for adoption. The recipient can immediately explore >and use the idea. Yes there need to be motivations, and they should be pointed >to, but the key is the immediacy of productivity. >There have been a few threads on ~Public-JHS-Servers, indeed jsoftware once >had one, when JHS was introduced. Such could fulfill this need with only SysOp >type efforts. If a base free level were provided, researchers and developers >could become engaged - with no entry hurdle. >No installations, with today's web it can get immediate access to any >information and serve as a filter for any idea. Sysops can keep the >installation up to date and portably accessible. Their is complexity in how it >could be monetized, but that would be a nice problem to have. ---~ http://jsoftware.2058.n7.nabble.com/quot-Public-JHS-Servers-quot-td57870.html http://u.tgu.ca/touchquery greg ~krsnadas.org -- from: greg heil ghei...@gmail.com to: Programming forum <programm...@jsoftware.com> date: 8 March 2014 13:25 subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes On 8 March 2014 12:00, Yike Lu <yikelu.h...@gmail.com> wrote: ... >>TouchQuery looks really cool, but it's not a killer app, it's a great tool. I >>mean -- have you ever switched to a language because the IDE was awesome? >i would likely turn that around and ask myself: what languages have i avoided >because they were too hard to set up? >i do think that ~touchquery is a great start. i even have now a short link to >use on any touch first device! ---~ http://u.tgu.ca/touchquery greg ~krsnadas.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm