Raul writes:

>>> Honestly, though, I prefer the explicit version. It's simpler, more
>>> concise, and faster. But I think that that is more a direct
>>> consequence of the (somewhat arbitrary) design of the algorithm than
>>> anything else.

I do not see much difference in performance; if anything, a fixed tacit
version is faster (and leaner).

   st=. (, */&.:>@:(1 2&{))@:(] ; 7!:2@:] ; 6!:2)

   666 st&>'emix i.8' ; 'tmix i.8'
┌────────┬─────┬──────────┬────────┐
│emix i.8│11520│7.28718e_5│0.839483│
├────────┼─────┼──────────┼────────┤
│tmix i.8│9600 │7.62123e_5│0.731638│
└────────┴─────┴──────────┴────────┘

   AND=. 17 b./ :(17 b.)
   XOR=. 22 b./ :(22 b.)
   fmix=. tmix f.

   666 st&>'emix i.8' ; 'tmix i.8' ; 'fmix i.8'
┌────────┬─────┬──────────┬────────┐
│emix i.8│11520│7.13917e_5│0.822432│
├────────┼─────┼──────────┼────────┤
│tmix i.8│9600 │7.49109e_5│0.719145│
├────────┼─────┼──────────┼────────┤
│fmix i.8│9600 │4.12386e_5│0.39589 │
└────────┴─────┴──────────┴────────┘

   ,.@:(emix ; tmix ; fmix) i.8
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307 67580712 539769534│
├────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307 67580712 539769534│
├────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307 67580712 539769534│
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘


On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Meh... I misremembered when I wrote this: this was wrong. Sorry about that.
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Oops, I should have included example uses.
> >
> > umix is a dyad - you need to give it a left argument saying how many
> > times you want it to run.
> >
> > Try:
> >    1 umix i.8
> >
> > emix would need another loop (or a power conjunction) to achieve the
> same thing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Raul
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>    emix i.8
> >> 68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307 67580712 539769534
> >>
> >>    umix i.8
> >> |length error: SH
> >> |       umix i.8
> >> |[-23]
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nice.
> >>>
> >>> Except, I prefer shift to take the number of bits as a left argument.
> >>> Also, there's still the matter of doing it tacitly.
> >>>
> >>> So, here's my rephrasing of your excellent work, for the explicit mix:
> >>>
> >>> top=: <:2^32
> >>> SH =: top AND 34 b. NB. 32 bit shift
> >>> MP =: top AND + NB. 32 bit addition ("modplus")
> >>>
> >>> emix =: verb define
> >>>   for_j. 11 _2 8 _16 10 _4 8 _9 do.
> >>>     'a b c d e f g h' =. y
> >>>     i=. a XOR j SH b
> >>>     y =. (b MP c), c, (d MP i), e, f, g, h, i
> >>>   end.
> >>> )
> >>>
> >>> And, here is a tacit equivalent:
> >>>
> >>> rfold=: 1 :'u&.>/@,&.:(<"_1),:'
> >>> tmix=:  _9 8 _4 10 _16 8 _2 11 umix rfold ]
> >>> imix=: 1 }. ], (0,[) XOR/@SH 2 {. ]
> >>> ymix=: MP/ .*&(8 8$1(8 58}),=i.8)
> >>> umix=: ymix@imix
> >>>
> >>> Honestly, though, I prefer the explicit version. It's simpler, more
> >>> concise, and faster. But I think that that is more a direct
> >>> consequence of the (somewhat arbitrary) design of the algorithm than
> >>> anything else.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Raul
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Michal Wallace
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > It's just a hashing algorithm, mixing up the bits of data in a
> >>> > deterministic but irreversible way.
> >>> >
> >>> > If you notice that the "alphabet-distance" between the variable
> names on
> >>> > each line is always the same,
> >>> > my implementation might make more sense. Since the offsets are
> always the
> >>> > same, I'm just rotating the
> >>> > array and re-applying the same logic.
> >>> >
> >>> > Here's the c code that will tell us what the result should be for mix
> >>> i.8:
> >>> >
> >>> > #include <stdio.h>
> >>> > int main() {
> >>> >    int a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h;
> >>> >    a=0;b=1;c=2;d=3;e=4;f=5;g=6;h=7;
> >>> >    a^=b<<11; d+=a; b+=c;
> >>> >    b^=c>>2;  e+=b; c+=d;
> >>> >    c^=d<<8;  f+=c; d+=e;
> >>> >    d^=e>>16; g+=d; e+=f;
> >>> >    e^=f<<10; h+=e; f+=g;
> >>> >    f^=g>>4;  a+=f; g+=h;
> >>> >    g^=h<<8;  b+=g; h+=a;
> >>> >    h^=a>>9;  c+=h; a+=b;
> >>> >          // a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h
> >>> >    printf("%d %d %d %d %d %d %d %d\n", a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h);
> >>> > }
> >>> >
> >>> > Answer:
> >>> >
> >>> > 68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307 67580712 539769534
> >>> >
> >>> > Here's the corrected code:
> >>> >
> >>> > top=: <:2^32
> >>> >
> >>> > SH =: top AND (34 b.)~ NB. 32 bit shift
> >>> >
> >>> > MP =: top AND + NB. 32 bit addition ("modplus")
> >>> >
> >>> > mix =: verb define
> >>> >
> >>> >   for_i. 11 _2 8 _16 10 _4 8 _9 do.
> >>> >
> >>> >     'a b c d e f g h' =. y
> >>> >
> >>> >     x =. a XOR b SH i
> >>> >
> >>> >     y =. 1 |. x, (b MP c), c, (d MP x), e, f, g, h
> >>> >
> >>> >   end.
> >>> >
> >>> > )
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > assert (mix i.8) -: 68112070 67580715 540296643 2058 539239185 529307
> >>> > 67580712 539769534
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Dan Bron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Michal Wallace wrote:
> >>> >> > I don't know whether or not this produces the correct results
> because
> >>> I
> >>> >> > don't have any test data, but...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yeah, that is troublesome.  Unfortunately, it’s the same catch-22
> I’m
> >>> in.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I’m transliterating the C code here:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/The_ISAAC_Cipher#C <
> >>> >> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/The_ISAAC_Cipher#C>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> as directly as possible into J, so that I can get a working program
> >>> which
> >>> >> produces the expected outputs for the given inputs.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Once I have a working program that I can test, interrogate, and
> reason
> >>> >> about, I’ll be in a much better position to refactor the code into
> >>> >> idiomatic, and, hopefully, elegant J.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> But the very reason I have to do it this cart-before-horse way is
> >>> because
> >>> >> I don’t (yet) understand the algorithm on a conceptual level.  So
> I’m
> >>> >> starting from the code.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I guess what I was asking for in my previous email was for someone
> who
> >>> >> does or can easily grok the concepts underlying the code to express
> >>> them in
> >>> >> J (which is a language I speak, so such code would teach me those
> >>> concepts).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Barring that, someone who is confident enough in his C to trust in
> his
> >>> >> translation of the macro would also suffice.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> (One big obstacle here, and I think more broadly to the lack of
> adoption
> >>> >> of ISAAC the author of that article laments is the majority of
> >>> >> easily-accessible artifacts dealing with it are code, rather than
> >>> prose.)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Dan
> >>> >>
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