Everyone has raised some interesting points. I agree that J benefits when robust discussions are had before changes are made. Learning the underpinnings of the status quo is a worthwhile exercise—even if change doesn't follow.
Good luck with your lab. It sounds like a neat idea. Cheers, Matt On 20 Jan 2016 5:26 pm, "robert therriault" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Matt, > > It's all good. The ideas breathe better when they are passed around. :-) > > My plan is to develop a lab that explains these concepts a bit more > clearly. > In that process, I may find that the "inner/outer" terms make for much > easier understanding, but I also know that having to struggle to justify > change is not a bad thing. > > I appreciate that the idea resonates with you and that makes it worth > exploring. > > Cheers, bob > > > On Jan 19, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Matthew Baulch <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Sorry. Thanks for that correction. I quite like Robert's suggestion, > though > > I took it on board without adequate attribution. Wasn't trying to be > > sneaky, though I see it might appear that way. > > > > Pairing 'outer shape' and 'cell shape' does seem a bit unnatural. I think > > we need a phrase like > > (i) the argument's 'frame of cells', or > > (ii) the argument's 'inner and outer shapes'. > > > > The decision is not mine, but I can't see how adopting 'outer' on its own > > is wise. > > > > Here's an idea: > > > > An argument has inner cells, each with shape 'inner shape'. Any argument > > must always have one outer cell. It has shape 'outer shape'. > > > > Any thoughts? > > The alternative to frame / cell shape being discussed is outer shape / > cell > > shape, not outer shape / inner shape. I don't believe anyone has used > > "inner shape" before (and it's not as good as "cell shape"). > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Matthew Baulch <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
