Sorry for the scrambled mess below (produced by my e-mail client) ...

As a newbie, and looking at the 'adbecf' example, I've found the term 'Interweave' quite appropriate. (This has sounded to me like a one-to-one relationship; but as a non-native speaker I might be thorougly mistaken.)

I then went on to build this example, which took me a bit further in my understanding of what is going on:

   q=. 'Fed'
   r=. 'Bur'
   s=. 'Inv'

   > q ;r ;s
Fed
Bur
Inv

   ,q ,.r ,.s
FBIeundrv

which is simply the above read in colum by column ...

Maybe this helps someone to find another shorthand description/phrase.

-M


At 2016-03-11 02:45, you wrote:
Yes, "the order in which they appear" is circular. Like I said, I'm still looking for the right words... I can't beat Ken's phrasing for accurate brevity, but it's longer than you want for the first-line description for a newcomer; and it requires that you know what 'item' means. "Row-major order" would be perfect if everyone knew the term, but I think it's passe. Marshall's "reading order", supplemented by a note giving Ken's description, and an example, is the best I've heard yet. Other ideas"? Henry Rich On 3/10/2016 7:35 PM, Roger Hui wrote: >> "in the order in which they appear in y"? > Isn't that kind of circular? What is the order in which they appear? > Row-major order, index order, "normal order", etc. > > The way Ken has it seems pretty good: "ordered by items, by items within > items, etc." > > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You're right... >> >> Now, how would you describe the order? Would 'index order" be enough? >> The Dictionary says "normal order" and then goes on to define it. I have >> looked for years for the right words. It has to be short and intuitive - >> not a mathematical definition. >> >> How about "in the order in which they appear in y"? >> >> Henry Rich >> >> >> On 3/10/2016 6:30 PM, Nicholas Spies wrote: >> >>> This is perhaps a quibble, but... >>> >>> Looking at the NuVoc definition of , y Ravel >>> >>> The following statement and the example directly below it... >>> -------- >>> Produces a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List> >>> containing all the atoms >>> <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> in y, in order. >>> >>> An atom <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> is converted >>> to a 1-atom list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List>, a >>> list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List> is left >>> unchanged, and any noun < >>> http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Noun> >>> of higher rank <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Rank> is >>> flattened into a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List >>> ]z=: 0 10 20 +/ i. NB. sample noun >>> 0 1 2 3 4 >>> 10 11 12 13 14 >>> 20 21 22 23 24 >>> >>> ,z >>> 0 1 2 3 4 10 11 12 13 14 20 21 22 23 24 >>> ------------------- >>> >>> ...and also... >>> >>> ,'ace',.'bdf' >>> >>> abcdef >>> >>> >>> ...give the first impression that Ravel puts the items into lexical order, >>> >>> which is misleading, as shown by the example 2 under Common Uses: >>> >>> >>> ]a =: 4 4 ?@$ 100 >>> >>> 89 91 1 24 >>> >>> 88 43 43 32 >>> >>> 85 84 27 31 >>> >>> 10 11 49 90 >>> >>> +/ 50 < , a >>> >>> 6 >>> >>> ,a >>> >>> 89 91 1 24 88 43 43 32 85 84 27 31 10 11 49 90 >>> >>> >>> Since NuVoc is targeting new users, the 'in order' statement should. IMHO, >>> specify explicitly the order as being <whatever description is >>> appropriate>. >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> ,'ace',.'bdf' >>>> abcdef >>>> 'ace',@,.'bdf' >>>> abcdef >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ,|:'ace',:'bdf' >>>>> abcdef >>>>> 'ace'([: , |:@,:)'bdf' >>>>> abcdef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Kip Murray <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A quickie -- how do you interweave two equal-length lists, so that >>>>>> 'ace' itw 'bdf' >>>>>> abcdef >>>>>> >>>>>> --Kip Murray >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

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