I am trying to make sense of this proposal:

> change the parsing rules so that the application of adverb trains
> are part of parsing and not built in to action "3 Adverb".

What does this even mean?

The "3 Adverb" action is a parsing action.

So it's sort of like you are saying "the application of adverbs should
not be a part of parsing but should instead be a part of parsing".

But that doesn't make any sense to me.

So, I guess maybe what you are proposing is to get rid of the parser
described by http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dicte.htm and
replace it with an entirely different parser which works almost
exactly the same except that it does something different?

-- 
Raul


On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am not quite sure what you mean by "when an adverb is applied to an
>> adverb"
>
> Once (a0 a1) is parsed it becomes an adverb. It is a new adverb and it is
> its own self contained object. Once we apply X to it, there is no more
> parsing to be done, there is only the result of applying the adverb to its
> argument. When an adverb happens to be a train what does this mean? In the
> current implementation it means apply the first adverb in the train then
> apply the result to the second adverb in the train. No one is quite sure
> what is meant by "when an adverb is applied to an adverb", that is the basis
> of the discussion. So far the 2 ideas are: it generates the train of the two
> adverbs or; it results in a syntax error (current meaning). Previous
> versions of J did neither.
>
>> In other words, here's five adverbs:
>>
>> a0=: 0 (1 : '/')
>> a1=: \
>> a2=: 1 : '/'
>> a3=: a0 a1
>> a4=: a2 a1
>>
>> The confusing thing, if I understand your thinking properly, is that
>> you expect 0 a4 to be reparsed as a3. But, instead, 0 a4 gives you a
>> syntax error.
>
> Not quite. I am not expecting a re-parsing, and as far as I can see it is
> not mentioned in the dictionary. Unless I am mis-understanding the parsing
> rules, once the adverb train is parsed it becomes a unit and there is simply
> the application of that unit to its argument. The meaning of that unit is
> sparsely discussed in the dictionary and is what is in question here. If the
> "application of an adverb to an adverb" makes you uneasy a way out would be
> to change the parsing rules so that the application of adverb trains are
> part of parsing and not built in to action "3 Adverb". But currently there
> is no "Train parsing rule" so I don't see where, in the specification of the
> language, this is required to be a syntax error.
>
> A side effect of the proposed change (from syntax error) is that:
>
> X (a0 a1) <==> (X a0) a1
>
> in more cases now. That seems good to me. What are the downsides?
>
>> Meanwhile... error messages can help you find mistakes in your coding.
>> So, there's that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
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