Herbert,

This may not be related at all, but is this recent?  I read that Windows 10 had 
the Creative update pushed on it in the last couple of days and if it was like 
the last time it may break some things. Not sure why it would affect 805 and 
not 804. ;-)

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3189776/microsoft-windows/microsofts-critical-windows-and-office-patches-present-a-panoply-of-problems.html

Cheers, bob

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Herbert Weissenbaeck // Privat 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you. Tried to run vs as admin.
> same result
> 
> uninstalled and re-installed j805 into users directory.
> same (negative) result.
> 
> I can however use J EXE Server via COM also in the 805 version (but want J 
> DLL Server, which still gives me an error).
> 
> Any more ideas?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 20:18, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure. IIRC It works for me. Perhaps it is a security issue. try
>> run visual studio as admin.
>> 
>> program files is protected, not sure if this is related to your problem.
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Apr, 2017 7:48 am, "Herbert Weissenbaeck // Privat" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> its regsvr32 without the "/r", i suppose.
>> 
>> in an admin console the registration seems to work. the J DLL Server
>> (version 3) type library shows up in visual studio with file version 805.
>> (the j804 one showed file version 701.)
>> 
>> however selecting it gives an error: "A reference to 'J DLL Server (version
>> 3) Type Library' could not be added. Could not register the ActiveX type
>> library 'C:\Program Files\j805\bin\j.dll'.
>> 
>> the same thing works without any problem with j804. why?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 19:22, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> typo, regsvr32
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Apr, 2017 7:21 am, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> jdllserver should work for all versions. try open an admin command prompt
>>>> at bin folder and type
>>>> regvsr32 /r j.dll
>>>> 
>>>> On 14 Apr, 2017 6:17 am, "Herbert Weissenbaeck // Privat" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On my Windows 10 machine J805 fails to register as a COM Server.
>>>> 
>>>> When I use jreg.cmd under 804 I get a "J DLL Server (version 3) Type
>>>> Library" in the kist of available Type Libraries in MS Visual Studio.
>>>> 
>>>> When I do the same with J805, no type library is registered.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this a bug or a feature? I would prefer working with 805 over 804.
>>>> 
>>>> Any hints/fixes?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 16:23, 'Bo Jacoby' via Programming <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Louis.
>>>>> Thanks for asking. I regret not knowing the answer.
>>>>> An ordinal fraction is like an array in J, with minor differences.
>>>>> - Arrays have names. Ordinal fractions have numbers.
>>>>> - An array has a finite number of dimensions. An ordinal fraction has
>>>> an infinite number of dimensions.
>>>>> - Arrays may have different shapes. All ordinal fractions have the
>>>> same shape: 9 9 9 9 . . .
>>>>> - Arrays have zero-origin indexing (0 1 . . .  n). Ordinal fractions
>>>> have one-origin indexing (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9).
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Arrays have elements. Ordinal fractions do not have elements.
>>>>> - Arrays may have subarrays. All ordinal fractions have subordinate
>>>> ordinal fractions.
>>>>> - Array elements contain data. Any ordinal fraction may contain a data
>>>> element.
>>>>> Ordinal fractions were invented (by me) in 1980, but have had limited
>>>> dissemination so far. I made programs in fortran and pascal and basic for
>>>> manipulating ordinal fraction files, but I have not managed to do it in
>> J.
>>>> The programs were general, because the logic is in the data file and not
>> in
>>>> the program. I have been alone doing this.
>>>>> Thanks! Bo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Den 20:08 torsdag den 13. april 2017 skrev Louis de Forcrand <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bo,
>>>>> This is cool.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for the way you suggest using it here, isn't it equivalent to
>>>> (without the first six rows of your data):
>>>>> 
>>>>> (~.@[ ,. +//.)/@|:
>>>>> ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Louis
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12 Apr 2017, at 21:57, 'Bo Jacoby' via Programming <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Joe!
>>>>>> My favorite datastructure is ORDINAL FRACTIONS - the algebra of data
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |  |    |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |    |
>>>>>> ORDINAL FRACTIONS - the algebra of data
>>>>>> This paper was submitted to the 10th World Computer Congress, IFIP 1986
>>>> conference, but rejected by the referee....  |  |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your data are coded like this
>>>>>> 10 Joe
>>>>>> 20 Bob
>>>>>> 30 Jane
>>>>>> 01 blue
>>>>>> 02 red
>>>>>> 03 purple
>>>>>> 11 1
>>>>>> 11 -1
>>>>>> 11 1
>>>>>> 22 1
>>>>>> 22 1
>>>>>> 22 3
>>>>>> 22 -1
>>>>>> 22 -1
>>>>>> 33 5
>>>>>> 33 -2
>>>>>> 33 2
>>>>>> (Written with double CRs because the mail program has a history of
>>>> deleting my CRs).
>>>>>> Summation gives the result
>>>>>> 10 Joe
>>>>>> 20 Bob
>>>>>> 30 Jane
>>>>>> 01 blue
>>>>>> 02 red
>>>>>> 03 purple
>>>>>> 11 1
>>>>>> 22 3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 33 5
>>>>>> I have not done the summation in J, but I'd like to do it.
>>>>>> Perhaps this helps you.
>>>>>> Bo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Den 0:04 torsdag den 13. april 2017 skrev chris burke <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Incidentally, for production code, I suggest starting by removing any
>>>> sales
>>>>>> not matched in returns and vice versa, so that the matching algorithm
>> is
>>>>>> applied only to potential matches.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:53 PM, chris burke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In case you need more complicated handling of the "gray area"
>>>>>>> transactions, I believe they would be relatively few in number, so
>>>> most of
>>>>>>> the time you could do the matching efficiently, then check for any
>> keys
>>>>>>> with returns preceding sales. For those, setting aside the first such
>>>>>>> return and repeating should clear them quickly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Timing should be well under 1 second for a million records.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just for completeness, I added a line that incorporates the sequence
>>>> check
>>>>>>>> into the cancel logic. Works great
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NB. hui progressive index
>>>>>>>> NB. http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Essays/Progressive_Index-Of
>>>>>>>> oc=: i.~ (] - {) /:@/:
>>>>>>>> pi=: #@[ ({. i.&(,.oc) }.) [ i. ,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NB. argument is 3-col table of seq,key,qty
>>>>>>>> NB. result is the unmatched transactions
>>>>>>>> matchtrans=: 3 : 0
>>>>>>>> msk=. 0<{:"1 y
>>>>>>>> sales=. msk#y
>>>>>>>> returns=. (-.msk)#y
>>>>>>>> ndx=. (}."1 sales) pi | }."1 returns
>>>>>>>> cancels=. ndx<#sales
>>>>>>>> NB. ensure cancel is after sale
>>>>>>>> cancels =. cancels *. (({."1 (<<(cancels)#ndx){sales) < ({."1
>>>>>>>> (cancels#returns)))
>>>>>>>> ((<<<cancels#ndx){sales),(-.cancels)#returns
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chris, this looks promising. Thanks for sharing. It's nearly instant
>>>> on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> million rows.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Which row had a return before a transaction? seq 10 was an example
>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> partial return. The hypothetical customer returned 2 out of the 5
>>>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>>>>> prior. I added that example since technically per the original spec
>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be cancelled out in this pass.  It's a gray area so I may
>> be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to use this approach, especially since I don't see how to
>> incorporate
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> time element into the progressive index.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:52 PM, chris burke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This might be done by comparing matrices of sales and returns. The
>>>>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>>>>> below seems to be close to what you want. It doesn't exactly match
>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> example, but your example has cases where returns are made before
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> transactions. Was this intentional?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The code should run faster than a looping solution.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Code:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> NB. hui progressive index
>>>>>>>>>> NB. http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Essays/Progressive_Index-Of
>>>>>>>>>> oc=: i.~ (] - {) /:@/:
>>>>>>>>>> pi=: #@[ ({. i.&(,.oc) }.) [ i. ,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> NB. argument is 3-col table of seq,key,qty
>>>>>>>>>> NB. result is the unmatched transactions
>>>>>>>>>> matchtrans=: 3 : 0
>>>>>>>>>> msk=. 0<{:"1 y
>>>>>>>>>> sales=. msk#y
>>>>>>>>>> returns=. (-.msk)#y
>>>>>>>>>> ndx=. (}."1 sales) pi | }."1 returns
>>>>>>>>>> cancels=. ndx<#sales
>>>>>>>>>> ((<<<cancels#ndx){sales),(-.cancels)#returns
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  dat=: ".;._2 (0 : 0)
>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 2 1 _1
>>>>>>>>>> 3 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 4 2 1
>>>>>>>>>> 5 2 1
>>>>>>>>>> 6 2 3
>>>>>>>>>> 7 2 _1
>>>>>>>>>> 8 2 _1
>>>>>>>>>> 9 3 5
>>>>>>>>>> 10 3 _2
>>>>>>>>>> 11 3 2
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  matchtrans dat
>>>>>>>>>> 3 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 6 2 3
>>>>>>>>>> 9 3 5
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a problem I'm trying to solve in different languages. I
>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> solution in SQL and also in kdb which largely resembles the SQL
>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious what a J solution would look like. More specifically,
>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> interested in picking the brains of others here to see if this
>> type
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> problem can be solved without looping (some form of scan?).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT: Initially I wrote this up thinking the J solution would
>>>>>>>> difficult,
>>>>>>>>>>> but it was actually fairly straightforward -- about 15 minutes,
>> but
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> would like to see if there are alternatives. If nothing else,
>> maybe
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> interesting problem to share.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Example data:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A store has a transaction log with a sequence for each
>> transaction.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> transaction log records a key for a unique customer/item
>>>> combination.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> transaction log records how many units were purchased or returned.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Goal:
>>>>>>>>>>> Attempt to match up related transactions and cancel out instances
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> customer/item combination is returned at the same quantity as a
>>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>>>>>> transaction
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe buys 1 blue pen, which is defective, then returns the 1
>>>> defective
>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>> pen, then buys another blue pen. EXPECTED: cancel out first two
>>>>>>>>>>> transactions and leave the the last one for 1 pen
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bob buys 2 red pens in two separate transactions. He then buys 3
>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>> returns the first two purchases as two separate return
>>>> transactions.
>>>>>>>>>>> EXPECTED: cancel out all transactions except the one for qty 3
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jane buys 5 purple pens and subsequently returns two of them. She
>>>>>>>> buys
>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>> more. EXPECTED: No transactions match exactly, so nothing is
>>>>>>>> cancelled
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Data:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> data=: 0 : 0
>>>>>>>>>>> seq key qty
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 1 _1
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 1 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 2 3
>>>>>>>>>>> 7 2 _1
>>>>>>>>>>> 8 2 _1
>>>>>>>>>>> 9 3 5
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 3 _2
>>>>>>>>>>> 11 3 2
>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> tbl =: ,. ' ' cut every cutLF data
>>>>>>>>>>> 'seqs keys qtys' =: |: ". every }. tbl
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Goal:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> goals =: 0 : 0
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> goal
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> credit
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> credit
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> credit
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> tbl,.(cutLF goals)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |seq|key|qty|goal |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |1 |1 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |2 |1 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |3 |1 |1 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |4 |2 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |5 |2 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |6 |2 |3 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |7 |2 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |8 |2 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |9 |3 |5 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |10 |3 |_2 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |11 |3 |2 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One approach:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> applycredits =: 3 : 0
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> goals=.(<'goal')
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> creditids=.0
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> for_i. (i. # seqs) do.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> key=.i{keys
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> seq=.i{seqs
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> qty=.i{qtys
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> nextcredit =.| {. qtys #~ ((key=keys)*(seqs>seq)*(qtys<0))
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> if. nextcredit = qty do.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> goals=.goals,<'cancelled'
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> creditids =. creditids, seqs #~ ((key=keys)*(seqs>seq)*(qtys<0))
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> elseif. creditids e.~ seq do.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  goals=.goals,<'credit'
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> elseif. do.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  goals=.goals,<'ok'
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> goals
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> tbl ,. ( applycredits 0 )
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |seq|key|qty|goal |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |1 |1 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |2 |1 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |3 |1 |1 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |4 |2 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |5 |2 |1 |cancelled|
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |6 |2 |3 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |7 |2 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |8 |2 |_1 |credit |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |9 |3 |5 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |10 |3 |_2 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> |11 |3 |2 |ok |
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +---+---+---+---------+
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> (cutLF goals) -: ( applycredits 0 )
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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