It's a long time since I played with s:  - do J symbols have any relevance to dictionaries/directories?

APL/J cousin, K, appears to have the dictionary as pretty central to its data organisation, but maybe
that's more akin to J's locales.

Neither topic helpful probably relevant here,  but might start a hare!

Mike

On 18/11/2019 02:49, Henry Rich wrote:
In J I find myself coming back to simple arrays for most data structures.

Trees can be represented as boxes containing subtrees.  That works, but is usually more trouble than simply managing an array.

Linked lists are used only for efficiency, and in the cases where that matters you can easily have a list of indexes to an array of data items.

Stacks are just lists, as Devon said.

The datatype I really want is a directory object that acts as an efficient and easy-to-use associative memory.  You put key/values in and then retrieve a value by presenting its key.  Has anyone written an addon for that?

(Note: the primitive 128!:8 (create a hash for a noun) was added to J9.01 with this in mind)

Henry Rich

On 11/17/2019 8:16 PM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Programming wrote:
  I failed to communicate the links before, but here they are. Ordinal fractions are somewhat like infinite-dimensional arrays. https://www.academia.edu/10031088/ORDINAL_FRACTIONS_-_the_algebra_of_data


http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Ordinal-fraction
Bo.

     Den søndag den 17. november 2019 22.07.28 CET skrev Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com>:
    Trees are simple to implement in J -
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Devon_McCormick/Trees - as are graphs
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https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/NYCJUG/2009-11-10/BreadthFirstGraphTraversal
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A stack is simple to implement too but I'm not sure why you would want to
as it's simply a vector with very restrictive rules to manipulate it.
Linked lists make no sense in a language with dynamic arrays for much the
same reason since a linked list is mainly a way of implementing dynamic
arrays but has benefit only in a language which lacks these natively.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 8:24 AM 'Bo Jacoby' via Programming <
programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:

   ORDINAL FRACTIONS - the algebra of data



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This paper was submitted to the 10th World Computer Congress, IFIP 1986
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     Den søndag den 17. november 2019 07.12.02 CET skrev Raul Miller <
rauldmil...@gmail.com>:

   Arrays are roughly analogous to computer memory.

Put different: I think you are asking the wrong question.

(Partially: it's worth thinking about why you pick whichever data
structures...)

((It can also sometimes be useful to look on rosettacode for examples of
various daya structure handling mechanisms.))

Thanks,

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Raul

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Jimmy Gauvin <jimmy.gau...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

when dealing with data structures other than arrays such as trees,
graphs,
stacks, linked lists what other programming language do you resort to ?

Or do stick with J for all endeavours?


Jimmy
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