In this case, there is no well-defined fixed point, no way of talking about “the” fixed point. Any nonboxed value is a fixed point.
What about “taking the derivative of ": ?” All strings are fixed points. The question raised here is “what is > meant to be?” Sure you can define it so that it wants to do what it actually does. But I always thought of it as unboxing, with the quirk that it doesn’t reject unboxed values but works like no-op ] instead. As a convenience. As always, YMMV Am 16.01.21 um 20:35 schrieb Justin Paston-Cooper: > The fixed point of a function is a well-defined concept. > > On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 22:21, Hauke Rehr <hauke.r...@uni-jena.de> wrote: >> >> There’s no sane way of talking about a “derivative of >” >> >> You said it shouldn’t concern itself with functions >> meant for dealing with boxed arguments, which > is an >> example of. If you’re not willing to state your numeric >> function in terms of functions dealing with numeric >> arguments only, you should be blamed. >> >> There is ]. >> This is not by design meant for boxed-only arguments. >> >>> 3 works only as a convenience. Semantically, it’s crap. >> I think it should be undefined behaviour officially. >> Open to be changed to produce an error without notice. >> >> Don’t misunderstand me: I like using &.> and the like. >> But I think it’s working against intended semantics >> and always consider using > on unboxed arguments a hack. >> >> Am 16.01.21 um 20:12 schrieb Raul Miller: >>> >3 >>> 3 >>> >> >> -- >> ---------------------- >> mail written using NEO >> neo-layout.org >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- ---------------------- mail written using NEO neo-layout.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm