Thanks for the detailed explanation and for the counterexample to my argument.
It seems that I haven't thought carefully how the "=" operates behind the scenes when comparing two complex numbers. Best regards, --- Michail L. Liarmakopoulos, MSc On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 13:03 Elijah Stone <elro...@elronnd.net> wrote: > Two arguments: > > 1. Comparison is tolerant anyway. So: > > 3j1e100 = 5j1e100 > 1 > > Since _ is greater than 1e100, the (relative) difference between 3j_ and > 5j_ should be less than that between 3j1e100 and 5j1e100 > > 2. Infinity is, of course, not a number. So, when encountering an > expression involving infinity, it is necessary to ask how it should be > interpreted. One way to interpret 3j_ is as follows: the limit as y > approaches _ of 3 j. y. Well, that does not converge. But its _angle_ > does, as does the angle of 5 j. y, and they converge to the same result: > 0.5p1. The j interpreter is kind enough to tell us as much: > > 0.5p1 =!.0 {:"1*.3j_ 5j_ > 1 1 > 3j_ -:!.0&*. 5j_ > 1 > > (The fact that these expressions evaluate to 1 even with a comparison > tolerance of 0--and would continue to do so, even given infinite > precision--is my argument for why 3j_=5j_ should be 1 even with a > comparison tolerance of 0. I recognise, however, that there are other > tradeoffs involved, and this may not be the right choice; but I think > there is no excuse for a 0 result given nonzero comparison tolerance, > unless _=_ is changed.) > > -E > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022, Michail L. Liarmakopoulos wrote: > > > It seems correct to me, as they're two different complex numbers. If they > > were the same: > > > > 5j_=5j_ > > 1 > > > > > > They have the same modulus though: > > > > %: 9 + _ > > > > _ > > > > %: 25 + _ > > > > _ > > > > (|3j_) = (|5j_) > > > > 1 > > > > Best, > > > > --- > > Michail L. Liarmakopoulos, MSc > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 10:15 Elijah Stone <elro...@elronnd.net> wrote: > > > >> 3j_ = 5j_ > >> 0 > >> > >> I think it should be 1. For nonzero comparison tolerance, at any rate. > >> > >> -E > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm