2?.8
2 4

Uninflected ? might need a footnote (or should maybe be elided --
that's possibly not the sort of information a person would value from
the reference card).

I imagine that the reference card's primary value for me would be
reminding me of operations which I had forgotten and a way of quickly
identifying details which distinguish similar operations. It's not
going to be a tutorial...

-- 
Raul

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 6:57 PM Elijah Stone <elro...@elronnd.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, but it obscures the point that the result is random, so one is left
> looking for patterns.
>
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, Henry Rich wrote:
>
> > Giving the actual value is a way of making the point that the stream is
> > the same for all invocations, unlike for 2 ? 8.
> >
> > Henry Rich
> >
> > On 8/9/2022 6:54 PM, Elijah Stone wrote:
> >> That 2 ?. 8 is 2 4 is an accident.  It doesn't explain why or how ?.
> >> works. For instance, ([ , %~) is another verb that gives 2 4 from 2 f
> >> 8; I'm sure imagination can supply others.  The random number is not
> >> guaranteed to generate any result in particular across versions; only,
> >> within a given version, it is stable.  What is important about ?. is
> >> that it generates random numbers, and that the stream is the same for
> >> all invocations.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, Henry Rich wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks to you, Hauke, Don for the comments.
> >>>
> >>> The Glossary has links to definitions.
> >>>
> >>> We made the decision that !&| would be better known that the standard
> >>> math symbols
> >>>
> >>> Certain special combinations ARE shown; which ones would you like?
> >>>
> >>> 2 ?. 8 is 2 4.  What's wrong with that?
> >>>
> >>> The Re and Im are a standard math notation.
> >>>
> >>> The formulas is for the Moore-Penrose inverse, which is what %. y
> >>> computes
> >>>
> >>> If you want a simpler card, make one!
> >>>
> >>> Henry Rich
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/9/2022 5:28 PM, Elijah Stone wrote:
> >>>> It claims that x|y is x mod y, but it is in fact y mod x.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think an example result of 2 4 for ?. is helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> In 'scalar dyadic verbs', why is footnote b attached to 'rnd', but
> >>>> footnote c is attached to '?.'?  They should be consistent.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that instead of 'Rank of ?. _, others 0', it should be 'Rank
> >>>> 0 (except ?.)'.  Begin with the common case, then list exceptions.
> >>>>
> >>>> The way the words 'Shape, Length, Rank' are spaced makes it look
> >>>> like they are labels for the columns of the table they accompany. I
> >>>> don't know what the solution is; it might be a good idea to
> >>>> left-align the table headings, or possibly tighten the horizontal
> >>>> spacing.
> >>>>
> >>>> The vertical spacing, on the other hand, is too tight; it makes the
> >>>> tables difficult to scan.  I would loosen it, even if it requires
> >>>> adding a third page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Names of standard library functions (datatype, load, etc.) don't
> >>>> link anywhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'r. π' should presumably be 'r. 1p1', as it is meant to be a j
> >>>> sentence?
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe it helps somebody, but I find the colouration on the second
> >>>> page--in particular for modifier trains and conjunctions--too busy;
> >>>> I would mute it a bit.  But this is a matter of taste.
> >>>>
> >>>> For @., rather than '[x] Vn y' with a footnote to explain what n is,
> >>>> I would say '[x] Vn y [ n=. [x] v y'.  I would also use subscripts
> >>>> for 0, 1, and n. And I would replace n with i, since n is
> >>>> conventionally used to name an argument to a conjunction.
> >>>>
> >>>> u::v needs a space after u.  I suggest that it should be stylised 'u
> >>>> . v', not 'u .v' (and analogously for other conjunctions that start
> >>>> with inflections).
> >>>>
> >>>> '[x] u^:v y' is '[x] u^:([x] v y) y', which is not what the
> >>>> reference says. Perhaps there should be a second row giving the
> >>>> common case of v as a predicate.
> >>>>
> >>>> In 'apply [x&]u til x&u y false', the second 'x&' needs to be
> >>>> bracketed as optional.
> >>>>
> >>>> In place of '[x&]u ...(n times) y', I would say '[x] u [x] u ...(n
> >>>> times) y'. I don't think the & is helpful, and and showing multiple
> >>>> instances of u makes it clearer exactly what it is that is happening
> >>>> n times.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the 'sort and grade' section, for a moment, I thought 'abcd' was
> >>>> intended as a left argument to all the verbs.  I guess this is
> >>>> because it is the middle-most item.  Maybe simply reordering would
> >>>> fix it.  Perhaps move /:@/: up above the sorts, together with the
> >>>> grades.  Then 'abcd' is no longer in the middle, and /:~ has pride
> >>>> of place as the last row (since it is likely to be the most common
> >>>> use of /: et co).
> >>>>
> >>>> In 'atomic compound forms a?b', it looks like there is an
> >>>> application of the verb ?.  I would at the least italicise it rather
> >>>> than bolding it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am curious where the convention of using black capital letters R
> >>>> and I to indicate the real and imaginary parts of a complex number
> >>>> comes from.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, Henry Rich wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Viktor Grigorov has a draft version of the new J Reference Card.
> >>>>> Please criticize it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The source for the card is a LaTeX document, and will be freely
> >>>>> available for editing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A PDF version is at
> >>>
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpyfmksD-XEJaJJ972jOy3b2_KWfV0Wi/view?usp=sharing
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Henry Rich
> >>>>>
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