Yes, the name ijconsole (iverson j console) was adopted to work around java's jconsole being in $PATH on many systems.
This would also be an issue with /usr/bin/env But I don't see any high priority problems with /usr/bin/ijconsole as a standard location. There will be some users who cannot install J there, but it should be simple enough for them to build a tool to patch incoming J scripts with the install location that they used. (And, /usr/bin/env is going to be considerably slower than a bit of undefined verb parsing and garbage collection within J.) -- Raul On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 6:51 PM Elijah Stone <elro...@elronnd.net> wrote: > > Fair enough. I think the obvious thing is #!/usr/bin/env jconsole. But I > gather 'jconsole' is also the name of a java-related program, which might be > why debian uses 'ijconsole' (and I think I have seen 'jc' elsewhere--probably > for the same reason). I therefore propose: > > 1. Rename jconsole to something which doesn't collide with anything heretofore > notable > > 2. Use #!/usr/bin/env that-something > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023, Raul Miller wrote: > > > Perhaps, but I think it would be more useful to have a portable, > > agreed on path for systems which support the #! convention. > > > > That's required for J scripts to be distributable. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Raul > > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:04 AM Elijah Stone <elro...@elronnd.net> wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps it's simply time to tell the interpreter to start ignoring the > >> first > >> line of a script if it starts with #!... > >> > >> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Raul Miller wrote: > >> > >> > The recent change in directory naming from j903 to j9.4 introduces an > >> > interesting issue for shell scripts on unix-like systems. > >> > > >> > In J shell scripts, this works: > >> > > >> > #!/home/username/j903/bin/jconsole > >> > > >> > However, this fails with a spelling error: > >> > > >> > #!/home/username/j9.4/bin/jconsole > >> > > >> > Or, on OSX, the shebang line is different, but the spelling error > >> > remains: > >> > > >> > #!/Applications/j9.4/bin/jconsole > >> > > >> > That said, there's some other issues here, related to portability. One > >> > of which is that (as a general rule) a home directory is personal > >> > rather than portable. Another is that there's official java jconsole > >> > which does not understand J. > >> > > >> > But, also, for a long time now, Debian based distributions have been > >> > distributing j with /usr/bin/ijconsole as a symbolic link to the > >> > current installed location for J. (Here, the 'i' in ijconsole stands > >> > for Iverson.) > >> > > >> > So I think that now would be a good time to adopt that as "documented > >> > standard practice" for j shell scripts. > >> > > >> > FYI, > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Raul > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
