getclip'' returns '<UNSET>' before any text has been placed on the
clipboard (i.e. cut or copied).
It looks like it's not working on your kit. Can you copy/paste text either
way between other apps besides jios?
As I tried to make clear, I know nothing about the feature except
(a) it works between my Mac (Sonoma 14.0) and my iOS device (iPad (6th
generation), iPadOS Version 17.1.2)
(b) I only discovered it recently by accident, and did nothing to enable it
(…that I know of)
I don't own an iPhone, so I can't tell you if it's iPadOS-only.
Mike uses it (if I understand him correctly), but he says it occasionally
crashes jios. So perhaps he can tell you more.
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 04:40, Brian Schott <schott.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian (et al),
>
> I tried your getclip'' experiment. When I execute getclip'' , the return
> was <UNSET> . There was no alert at the desktop, asking for my permission
> to paste, I got the same <UNSET> .
>
> And then when I enter "myfoldtext" on jios I see "4 : <UNSET>" . So maybe
> I'm doing something wrong.
>
> I have successfully entered 2 scripts in a subdirectory named "nn" and
> somehow I saved them. But I don't really know how they got saved from the
> editing window where I pasted them. I got the editing window open using ".o
> but I don't see a save option, or a run option or a load option from there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 5:34 PM Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @ Brian
> > You say you don't use iCloud, and you've given up on iOS Files app.
> > You're denying yourself the most robust way to move J scripts between
> your
> > iOS device and your Mac.
> > And (probably) the easiest to setup and use. Though that may not be
> saying
> > much.
> >
> > If I had 10 coders in my team, I'd put one of them full-time on exploring
> > all the ways of moving text between iOS and Mac. Because it'll be a
> > full-time job. If you don't believe me, ask me why… but I won't wallow in
> > the shambles here.
> >
> > With iOS 17.1 a new feature appeared unannounced. If you copy text to the
> > Mac's general pasteboard (what used to be called the clipboard), it's
> > visible to the general pasteboard of any iOS device on your Wi-fi hub,
> and
> > vice-versa.
> > I don't trust it. It looks too good to be true – and it is, because Mike
> > tells me it can crash iOS.
> >
> > But if you want to play with this shiny new Apple feature, here's a
> recipe
> > to get you started:
> >
> > Launch jios on your iOS device.
> > Launch jqt on your Mac and pick a suitable multi-line verb, e.g foldtext
> >
> > foldtext
> >
> > 4 : 0
> >
> > if. 0 e. $y do. '' return. end.
> >
> > y=. ; x&foldpara each cutpara y
> >
> > y }.~ - (LF ~: |.y) i. 1
> >
> > )
> >
> >
> > Clip-copy just the body of the verb, i.e.
> >
> >
> > if. 0 e. $y do. '' return. end.
> >
> > y=. ; x&foldpara each cutpara y
> >
> > y }.~ - (LF ~: |.y) i. 1
> >
> >
> > In the Home scene of jios, enter the sentence:
> >
> >
> > ] z=: getclip''
> >
> > if. 0 e. $y do. '' return. end.
> >
> > y=. ; x&foldpara each cutpara y
> >
> > y }.~ - (LF ~: |.y) i. 1
> >
> >
> > (you may see an alert asking your permission to paste from your Mac
> before
> > it returns the copied text.)
> >
> >
> > Now reconstitute your verb like this:
> >
> >
> > myfoldtext=: 4 : z
> >
> >
> > Knowing how Edit works, using getclip is sturdier than pasting text (even
> > ascii text) directly into the Edit scene. Right now I'm working on a
> > replacement for the UIKit object (UITextView) used by Edit and Home,
> > because it's a can of worms. It was never designed to do anything so
> simple
> > as emulate a tty.
> >
> >
> > BTW, to minimize the risk of jios crashing, free up as much memory as you
> > can by terminating all other running apps.
> >
> > And if you simply must paste more than 1 line of J code into Edit, avoid
> > bracketing it with {{…}} or even 3 : 0 … )
> >
> > Safer still, turn off Syntax Coloring.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 18:49, 'Mike Day' via Programming <
> > programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Glad that was useful.
> > >
> > > You mention copy & paste. Ian will have wise things to say about this,
> > > which I won't understand, but one of the things that "appears" to
> > > wipe my Jios ipad installation is copy from elsewhere or from the J
> > > session
> > > itself, and paste into a J edit session, even when bracketed by
> > > {{)n and }}
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On 27 Dec 2023, at 01:28, Brian Schott <schott.br...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike and Ian,
> > > >
> > > > Mike, your answer was very helpful because I could not get the iphone
> > to
> > > be
> > > > recognized by my desktop Mac when I tried to link them with a USB
> cable
> > > (I
> > > > don't use icloud). An error keeps occurring, so I gave up on the ios
> > > files
> > > > app. But your mention of a folder creation button made me go back to
> > the
> > > > files app and it seems to work fine to create the folder and then I
> can
> > > use
> > > > the j open command to create a blank file in the new directory using
> > some
> > > > of the paths suggested by Ian's message.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still shaky on saving the copy/pasted text (from the email I use
> to
> > > > transport the text) into the 'open'ed (edited) file. I cannot find a
> > save
> > > > command after the paste, so I'm not sure if it's saved. But the load
> > > seems
> > > > to get the file so it must be saved, I guess.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to you both,
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:36 PM 'Mike Day' via Programming <
> > > >> programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Don't know about iphone, but I've got a couple of
> folders/directories
> > > >> under ~user in my iPad installation of Jios; here's the official
> > info:
> > > >> JVERSION
> > > >> Engine: j903/j64/iOS
> > > >> beta-k: GPL3/2023-04-16T23:21:00
> > > >> Platform: iOS/iPadOS
> > > >> Version: 903.2 57
> > > >> Installer: App Store
> > > >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> > > >>
> > > >> I think I "created" them by copying folders with scripts from
> iCloud,
> > > but
> > > >> I see there is a folder-create icon in the Files app's display.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope that's useful,
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPad
> > > >>
> > > >>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Brian Schott <schott.br...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Can the user create a subdirectory under j/user and fill it with
> > .ijs
> > > >> files
> > > >>> in j90x on iphone?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>>
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