Likewise in APL ⍋ computes the inverse of a permutation
and has been so for 45 years.  Some in APL employ
circumlocutions because ⍋ is slower, but it is slower
no longer (in at least one APL :-).



----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Clark <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011 7:26
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] A permutation of i.y
To: Programming forum <[email protected]>

> Thanks, Roger.
> I had that feeling ip was more complicated than it need be. I really
> need to know my primitives better, every-which-way.
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ip is just /:
> >
> >   ip x=: 10?10
> > 0 1 3 9 7 8 4 5 2 6
> >   /: x
> > 0 1 3 9 7 8 4 5 2 6
> >
> > If you substitute then tacitize, ip@baa becomes one
> > of the Rich/Boss creations of earlier today.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ian Clark <[email protected]>
> > Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011 7:12
> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] A permutation of i.y
> > To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
> >
> >> ...Y'know, once you ask the question in the right way, the answer
> >> becomes obvious...
> >>
> >> I already have a verb around to invert permutations:
> >>    ip=: ] i. [: i. #
> >> Now the inverse of the permutation we want is easy to define. We
> >> simply extract x and haul it to the front:
> >>    baa=: 4 : 'x,(i.y)-.x'
> >> Hey presto!
> >>    3 ip@baa 10
> >> 1 2 3 0 4 5 6 7 8 9
> >>
> >> Tacitly:
> >>    foo=: (] i. [: i. #)@([ , [ -.~ [: i. ])
> >>    timer '3 foo 10'
> >> 2.79236e_5
> >>
> >> ...which I think is one of the fastest.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Ian Clark
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> btw: why is this useful?
> >> >
> >> > I was waiting for someone to ask...
> >> >
> >> > I often find I'm interactively editing a list t of strings -
> - often
> >> > large, and often (though not always) a 2D char matrix -- 
> frequently>> > sorting them to promote or demote a given entry. It's
> >> convenient for
> >> > me to rearrange t using a permutation, p, like so:
> >> >   p{t
> >> > especially as successive p's can be multiplied together to
> >> apply in
> >> > one-shot, or to apply as the inverse-perm to revert to a previous
> >> > stage.
> >> > And to add a new line at position (i) in a comparable way:
> >> >   p=. i foo >:#t
> >> >   p{ newline,t
> >> > rather than like so:
> >> >   (i{.t),newline, i}.t
> >> > which growing up on smaller and slower computers distresses me.
> >> >
> >> > What I've been asking for is help towards an efficient p.
> >> >
> >> > You can also do:
> >> >   p{ t,newline
> >> > which is why I'm also interested in solutions floating the last
> >> > element down to position i, as well as the first element up.
> >> >
> >> > Succint float-down solutions seem to be easier to find. I
> >> suspect this
> >> > is thanks to the way A. orders permutations 
> lexicographically, ie
> >> > back-to-front from the way I'd do it.
> >> >
> >> > Now you know what I want to use it for, am I barking up the wrong
> >> > tree: is there a far better approach to the problem of 
> rearranging>> > large lists?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Steven Taylor
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> 3 /:@:(([,-.~) i.) 10
> >> >> neat.  I liked Henry's sneaky version:
> >> >>
> >> >> 3 /:@(0} i.) 9
> >> >> I need to catch up with the thread and think through the C.
> >> and A.
> >> >> approaches a little more.
> >> >>
> >> >> btw: why is this useful?
> >> >>
> >> >> -Steven
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 30 April 2011 23:49, Marshall Lochbaum
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:>>
> >> >>> Probably not very fast, but this one is cool:
> >> >>>   3 /:@:(([,-.~) i.) 10
> >> >>> 1 2 3 0 4 5 6 7 8 9
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Marshall
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: [email protected]
> >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> R.E. Boss
> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:48 PM
> >> >>> To: 'Programming forum'
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] A permutation of i.y
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This revealed an error in my solution.
> >> >>> It should be
> >> >>>
> >> >>>      3 7 (+/@:!@(]->:@([+ i.@-~)/@[) A. i.@] )10
> >> >>> 0 1 2 4 5 6 7 3 8 9
> >> >>>
> >> >>>      0 3 (+/@:!@(]->:@([+ i.@-~)/@[) A. i.@] )10
> >> >>> 1 2 3 0 4 5 6 7 8 9
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If only the first item has to be moved, then you get the 
> simpler>> >>>
> >> >>>      3 (+/@:!@(]->:@i.@[) A. i.@] )10
> >> >>> 1 2 3 0 4 5 6 7 8 9
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> R.E. Boss
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> >>> > Van: [email protected] 
> [mailto:programming-
> >> >>> > [email protected]] Namens Brian Schott
> >> >>> > Verzonden: zaterdag 30 april 2011 17:40
> >> >>> > Aan: Programming forum
> >> >>> > Onderwerp: Re: [Jprogramming] A permutation of i.y
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Yet another approach?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >    foo0=: +/@:!@:>:@:i.
> >> >>> >    foo =: (<:@]-&foo0-~) A. i.@]
> >> >>> >    3 foo 9
> >> >>> > 1 2 0 3 4 5 6 7 8
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Raul Miller
> >> <[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> >> >>> > > This might be what you want:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >   foo=: (C.~ <)&i.~
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >   3 (C.~ <)&i.~ 9
> >> >>> > > 1 2 0 3 4 5 6 7 8

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