What is different now from before is in J6 there is an smprompt that can
write out a line and then wait on the same line for the input prompt.

waiting on the next line was/is/has never been a problem.

Often people expect the problem to be a bit more than it is.

Those wanting more advanced prompts usually go for forms etc.


2011/12/31 PackRat <pack...@anet.com>

> bill lam wrote:
> > I'm puzzled. If prompt works for you, why 1!:1]1 didn't?
>
> Just to make sure that all info is known, this is NOT from jconsole,
> which I never use.  Rather, this is in a J session in .ijx and where
> code is developed in .ijs.
>
> I tried the 1!:1]1 two different ways, using a cover verb (test1 and
> test2) and using in-line code (test3):
>
> --------------------------------------
> require 'files strings'
>
>
> test1=: 3 : 0
>   d=. input 'enter something: '
>   smoutput < d
> )
>
> test2=: 3 : 0
>   d=. input2 'enter something: '
>   smoutput < d
> )
>
> test3=: 3 : 0
>   d=. 'enter something: ' 1!:1 ]1
>   smoutput < d
> )
>
> input=: 3 : 0
>  y
>  entry=. 1!:1 ]1
> )
>
> input2=: 3 : 0
>  y
>  1!:1 ]1
> )
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> It turns out from further testing that J does NOT hang when using this
> approach.  It only SEEMED that way because J was actually waiting for
> input.  Somewhere along the line, I thought I'd try pressing the ENTER
> key--and, lo and behold, it seemed to break out of the "hang up" and
> returned me to the normal session condition of waiting for a command.
> Then I thought, "Maybe it was really waiting for input of some kind",
> and so I typed some random letters before pressing the ENTER key.  Lo
> and behold (again!), it was working and was really waiting for input
> all the time.
>
> The reason I originally didn't pursue this any further is that the
> Dictionary misled me (is this a bug in the Dictionary?) when page
> dx001.htm clearly stated, "read from the keyboard (does not work within
> a script)".  The behavior I described above fit into the Dictionary's
> statement (because the seeming misbehaviors were in a script), and so I
> didn't pursue it any further but asked here for alternatives instead.
>
> So, in answer to your question, bill: yes, it really does work; I just
> didn't realize it.  Well, almost...
>
> The reason I didn't realize it is that I thought that (in input and
> input2) the literal y would display, and it didn't.  By inserting
> "smoutput" ahead of the y's, the prompts displayed.  With test3, the
> first line had to be split in two: the first displaying the prompt
> using smoutput, and the second the desired code.  Because the prompt
> literals didn't display originally, I thought the code wasn't working,
> when in fact J was waiting for input.  (The reason I thought the
> prompts would display in the code at the top of this email is that
> single literals usually seem to display in J, and I didn't realize that
> the safest approach apparently is to always use "smoutput" or "1!:2]2"
> to display them.)
>
> The lingering problem with this approach is that, in contrast to the
> "prompt" verb, the prompt literal and the user input are on separate
> lines--not a good thing.  Here's the visual difference, using an
> underscore to indicate the location of the cursor:
>
> Your 1!:1]1 approach:           The "prompt" verb:
>
> This is the data prompt:        This is the data prompt: _
> _
>
> Or is there some documentation somewhere that indicates how your
> approach can be made to look like the "prompt" verb approach?
>
> I hope this extra information helps explain the situation more clearly.
>
>
> Harvey
>
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