> Ian - a good place to study j use of dylib in Darwin would be in
> ~/addons/data/jmf.ijs  Maybe you can find happiness there.

Now that looks sensible!

Searching the code for 'dylib' I learn that cd (15!:0) can access
dylibs, here mostly libc.dylib, just like it does in Windows (with of
course a different argument syntax). Why didn't I spot that before?
Now I just need to brush up my knowledge of the standard C library
(=libc). A simple matter of wading thru the Xcode documentation.

> Meanwhile, I'm a little unclear on what you are trying to do.

Let me try to explain as briefly as I can.

I have a bunch of j602 apps with fine-tuned jwd UIs which I want to
migrate to j7. Including a few cherished app dev utilities. "Oh, just
rewrite them all in jgtk" ... sounds plausible if you say it quickly.

I reasoned, as a first step: if I can split off the jwd UI to run in
an asynchronous process communicating via a link that's both general
and docile, then that's half the battle. I can then replace the UIs at
my leisure with ones written in Cocoa / Xcode -- or jgtk -- or
html/javascript... you name it. Perhaps all of these, for a
distributed app. The now-faceless apps will like-as-not run unchanged
under J7, as "servers", and they'll even work with their old j601 UIs,
while I develop plug-compatible replacements. That's if I feel the
urge to.

Well, I'm pleased to report I can now split even a complex jwd app
into client+server, without having to re-engineer the app's UI (too
much). My lo-tech link is sweet and docile: you can interact with both
client and server via their J sessions and you hardly realise they're
alive and talking to each other. A wiki case-study will follow
shortly.

But... my technique doesn't port readily to j7 because of one thing:
no wd'timer'.

Actually this isn't such a show-stopper as I'm making out. I can
always run my "server" duty-cycle instead in a tight loop, as you do
yours (...6!:3 is "tight" to me :). The back-end of the app, I reason,
will not need that much debugging by now, and I can do most of that
back in my cosy j602 environment. But I've got mighty used to the
elbow-room that wd'timer' affords me.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com> wrote:
> Ian - a good place to study j use of dylib in Darwin would be in
> ~/addons/data/jmf.ijs  Maybe you can find happiness there.
>
> Meanwhile, I'm a little unclear on what you are trying to do. I assume
> you have a continuously available j task that picks up things to do from
> some queue - but you don't want it to be in a dead loop checking the
> queue. I run a task like that in my Linux server and it has the lines:
>
>    while. * 6!:3 ] 1 do.
>        if. (work to do) do.
>            massage some data (actually quite a lot... but sporadic)
>        end.
>    end.
>
> This task runs as a #! jconsole shell and I just looked to see that it
> has been running for 100 days and has accumulated 20 minutes and 15
> seconds of CPU time (on a 400 Mhz pentium - so pretty small overhead).
> Of course, the CPU usage is dependent on the work that gets done - but
> since (as you pointed out in a different message) j is single threaded,
> this seems to me to be a way to approach the kind of thing you seem to
> be describing.
>
> On 2012/01/05 09:54 , Ian Clark wrote:
>> Thanks, David.
>>
>> But this uses 'dll'. AFAIK there's no comparable way of calling dylibs
>> in Darwin.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:44 PM, David Mitchell<davidmitch...@att.net>  wrote:
>>> Here is a version that works with J602 and J701 jconsole.  It does not work 
>>> with
>>> jhs or jgtk.  I have not tested it extensively and it may have side effects 
>>> or
>>> bugs that I haven't found yet.
>>>
>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/WindowsTimer
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2012 8:27, Ian Clark wrote:
>>>> How do I get a timer in j701 jhs (or jconsole)?
>>>>
>>>> I've been assuming wd (11!:0) doesn't work at all in j701 (in j602
>>>> you'd do: 11!:0 'timer 3' for a callback in 3 secs).
>>>>
>>>> BTW J701 help (http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/dictionary/dx011.htm)
>>>> still refers to 11!:0 but I assume that's just because it's been
>>>> overlooked...?
>>>>
>
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