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any progress on that one?
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[task #118] Full Item Snapshot:
URL: <http://gna.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=118>
Project: Administration
Submitted by: Mathieu Roy
On: Mon 02/02/2004 at 00:58
Should Start On: Sun 02/01/2004 at 23:00
Should be Finished on: Tue 02/01/2005 at 23:00
Category: Services Functionalities
Priority: 1 - Later
Resolution: None
Assigned to: None
Percent Complete: 0%
Status: Open
Effort: 0.00
Summary: subversion support
Original Submission: Gna! should support subversion as alternative to arch.
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Date: Wed 05/12/2004 at 09:29 By: ttimo
any progress on that one?
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Date: Thu 03/11/2004 at 10:40 By: ttimo
I have noticed that some other sourceforge forks have started providing SVN access. I
don't know which codebase gna uses exactly.
http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=4718
Anyway, to answer (partly) your questions:
- storage: GtkRadiant repository (https://zerowing.idsoftware.com:666/) has 4320
revisions, and uses 1.1Gb.
It's a fairly large repository, as it was converted from a CVS repository, after 4
years of active developement, and is used to store binary media as well as source
code. SVN tends to be bigger though. Got an account of 120Mb -> 150Mb. Expect a size
increase around 20%.
The storage is berkeley db, so it's a single large random access file.
- backup:
SVN provides a hot-backup.py script which can be used and extended. It does a hotcopy
to duplicate the repository. I run it croned daily. Only doing hot-backup when the
repository changes.
- CPU load. for regular usage, backups, viewsvn .. hard to estimate. The same box ( P3
600Mhz ) we started GtkRadiant on CVS, we are still using with SVN. SVN generally
performs better for users for your server CPU cycles. Word on the street is that it's
less CPU intensive ( HD bound? ) + 'costs are proportional to change size, not data
size', which is not true for CVS.
- security / permissions etc.
the svnserve protocol doesn't offer much for permissions. It has an anonymous mode (no
write), and otherwise uses the permissions it is executed as. They plan to improve on
that, but the DAV way offers fine grained access already.
I can't say I'm a big fan of ssh for transport. It makes things fairly hard to setup
for windows users, which is my main problem with it. DAV over https, with client
certificates .. makes things about as secure as an ssh access anyway.
- web interfaces to repository:
ViewCVS: Requires the python bindings. I gave up using it on GtkRadiant, as it locks
me up (
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=895294&group_id=18760&atid=118760
)
SVN::Web: uses the python bindings. Is more bare-bones than ViewSVN, but a good
alternative. That's what I'm running now, but it has scalability issues on repos with
a lot of branches.
Chora: requires php, word is Chora as experimental SVN support.
The web interfaces will likely be causing most of the load.
- cvsreport-like:
There are contributed scripts in the SVN repository. I have one with web URLs which I
can contribute. It's much easier to write that stuff with SVN than it is with CVS.
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Date: Thu 03/11/2004 at 09:21 By: zerodeux
Let's try to detail a bit, we need :
- storage: what is the disk usage ratio between a CVS and SVN repository for the same
source tree ? What are bandwidth issues (lots of small scattered files ? heavily
random access ?)
- backup: svnadmin dump or hotcopy ? Need some insight (time, load, compression).
- CPU cycles: difficult to estimate. Right now we only have 90 projects and the CVS
server is lightly loaded (0.1 average). What is the load ratio between CVS and SVN for
the same source tree and usage ?
- init: need to hook a 'svnadmin create' in the group creation backend.
- security: preferred transport will be SSH, user & group rights should work as they
are now. Expecting WebDAV when there is a dedicated server for SVN.
- helpers: ViewCVS 1.0-cvs supports SVN. Needs a cvsreport-alike.
Comments/addition welcome.
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Date: Tue 02/10/2004 at 16:32 By: ttimo
do you have a roadmap at this point?
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