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                Vincent Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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                Fri 05/14/04 at 09:37 (Europe/Paris)

------------------ Additional Follow-up Comments ----------------------------
[notes from Mathieu, support ticket #229]



Hello,



I'd like to stress the fact that the main reason why we do not provide PHP is not 
security but resources. It is not really hard to jail PHP in a pretty secure way.



But I do not think we should take the risk to waste CPU time and RAM for PHP. There 
are free provider that proposes PHP and people still have the option to run their own 
webserver: in this case, we would not fullfill no one else do.



Considering that a company like Free took 3 years to get a clean setup that avoid 
having PHP completely sucking a bunch of server resources, I would definitely not be 
happy if PHP was set up on Gna! machine will Gna! is not 5 month old and his number of 
users increasing at high speed (proportionaly, because Gna! is young -- every hundred 
user makes a difference).



So I would definitely not say "we are planning to support PHP soon". It would not be 
wise. Also, cvs and home are currently on the same machine : I would not think wise 
either to let users use PHP on the machine hosting cvs. It is not even a matter of 
having PHP secure: we already can do that. But as secure an installation can be, it 
can still be cracked. And it can more easily be cracked with PHP available on the same 
box.








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[task #120] Full Item Snapshot:

URL: <http://gna.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=120>
Project: Administration
Submitted by: Vincent Caron
On: Mon 02/02/04 at 18:49

Should Start On:  Mon 02/02/04 at 00:00
Should be Finished on:  Fri 04/02/04 at 00:00
Category:  Services Functionalities
Priority:  3 - Low
Resolution:  None
Assigned to:  None
Percent Complete:  0%
Status:  Open
Effort:  0.00


Summary:  PHP support for homepages

Original Submission:  Evaluate load and security issues for PHP support on 
home.gna.org.

Follow-up Comments
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Date: Fri 05/14/04 at 09:37         By: zerodeux
[notes from Mathieu, support ticket #229]



Hello,



I'd like to stress the fact that the main reason why we do not provide PHP is not 
security but resources. It is not really hard to jail PHP in a pretty secure way.



But I do not think we should take the risk to waste CPU time and RAM for PHP. There 
are free provider that proposes PHP and people still have the option to run their own 
webserver: in this case, we would not fullfill no one else do.



Considering that a company like Free took 3 years to get a clean setup that avoid 
having PHP completely sucking a bunch of server resources, I would definitely not be 
happy if PHP was set up on Gna! machine will Gna! is not 5 month old and his number of 
users increasing at high speed (proportionaly, because Gna! is young -- every hundred 
user makes a difference).



So I would definitely not say "we are planning to support PHP soon". It would not be 
wise. Also, cvs and home are currently on the same machine : I would not think wise 
either to let users use PHP on the machine hosting cvs. It is not even a matter of 
having PHP secure: we already can do that. But as secure an installation can be, it 
can still be cracked. And it can more easily be cracked with PHP available on the same 
box.



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Date: Mon 02/02/04 at 19:00         By: yeupou
I think that we'll be able to evaluate correctly the load issue only in several month, 
once the servers will be running in a state we could consider as usual, with services 
really used.












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