I'll just chime in quickly here because I can't help it. I am normally not a complainer, I swear...

I've had an add-on nominated for over 2 months.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/developers/details/6846

Before FF3 (which we are still working on making it compatible with) we had 1,200 active users. The plugin has been written about in the NY Times. I could go on...

I'm currently maintaining two releases - one on our own servers signed with the mccoy tool which is time consuming, and this AMO version.

I only learned about mozdev recently and hoping it will make our process easier.

We've got about 5-10 really smart people working on development and barriers created by lack of documentation are amazing. We should be able to figure this stuff out, but when you get to a certain level, it feels like it's all insider knowledge that you have to tease out of people on irc.

I'll stop there... thanks for letting me vent a little.

Steve

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On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Ramiro Aparicio wrote:

I think AMO is important and with the increased interaction on firefox 3 it is more important than ever, the idea es to have a repository with all extension, themes... which is great but if every extension update has to wait for 3-4 weeks to be reviewed then thats your bottleneck, and it should be done something to address that problem, also the bag instead FIFO system really sucks, at least try to promote the older unreviewed extensions or whatever.

In my case a extension with more than 120.000 users (AMO stats) have been waiting in the bag for 3 weeks, the last weekend I released an update to fix a bunch of bugs and we will see when it will be reviewed.

And Onno, releasing in advance of FF release would be a great idea if they stop making last minute changes, I had to change a lot of code between RC1 and RC2 becouse of the new security restrictions that were added and 3 days before download day I was filling a bug due to a regression in RC3.

I don't know whats the best system probably you don't have to pay for reviewers, but make a good campaign to get more, give them points for reviews and let them get some free merchandising with the points, and probably you will reduce the problem a lot.

Hasta Otra

Ramiro Aparicio

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On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Onno Ekker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AMO isn't an absolute necessity to release new versions of your software. Surely you must know that by now, especially since you post here ;)

You don't need AMO, but it helps greatly getting your extention to end users. I have a small Thunderbird extension and had about 2 downloads a day on mozdev, 5 on AMO before going public and now 30...

Most end users on AMO won't go looking for an update on your project website. They won't even realize there might be a newer version there, or in the sandbox.


I would however like to advise you to open your favorite IRC proggy and go beg for support (insert you devils smiley here). Now seriously, this has got to change a.s.a.p. I agree. And totally!

Project owners could have helped to take the strain from editors too, by not waiting for the next major release to update their add- on, but starting with it as soon as the first alpha was released (or even before that). Once an extension is compatible (and reviewed), you only need to bump maxVersion if it stays compatible and no further reviewing is necessary for that. Some project owners probably have done that, but others have waited too long and now suffer the consequences of that.

If you don't like the way AMO/reviewing is working, it might be an idea to file a bug for it. Or vote for one, if you can find an existing one. But (all/most?) reviewers are volunteers, just like you and me, and they do their best to review each add-on.

Onno

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