Nabi lu dan sobat nabi itu segolongan dgn suryana, sama2 doyan ke tempat pelacuran.
From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:27 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite > > > >Omongan lu kacau balau jadi hilang makna > >lu campurin hayalan busuk dengan otaklu yamg sakit >pakai bawa2 suryana segala..............kebanyakan berhayal > >________________________________ >From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 10:48 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite > > > >Hehehe... jadi lu pendukung sunat itil cewek, dan lu mikir bhw cewek itu gila >sex kayak nabi Islam dan sobat2nya. > >Ga ada tuh cewek yg ngecret waktu naik sepeda, yg ada cuma nabi dan >pejihad2nya itu begitu menderitanya krn ga dpt cewek unt diperkosa shg mereka >mau jadi kasim, saking gila sexnya. > >Untung auloh itu maha pengasih shg nabi dkk bisa pergi ke pelacur kayak si >suryana. > > > >From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:15 AM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite >> >> >> >>Bleki omongan lu kayak bencong serak biasanya vulgar >>Eeeeeh anak cewek kalau tidak disunat klentitnya bisa berabe orang tuanya >>apalagi bila sianak sudah mulai dewasa bagaimana tidak didisunat >>duduk &ngegeser pantat seperti main ayunan saja bisa ngecret >> >>apalagi kalau naik sepeda bisa ngecret di sadle itu anak >> >>karena jengger ayam nya bersentuhan terus menerus dengan kelentit nya dia >>bakalan >>selalu horny sepanjang hari masa mudanya bakalan hancur lebur karena hamil >>duluan >> >>________________________________ >>From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:03 PM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite >> >> >> >>Hehehe... jadi lu sama sekali ga peduli dgn cewek2 yg dipotong itilnya itu, >>nurut lu, itu urusan mereka, bukan urusan lu. >> >> >> >>From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com> >>>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:24 AM >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite >>> >>>lu usil kgak ada kerjaan ngurus itil cw. >>>itu urusan sesama perempuan.. >>> >>>lu memang tukang fitnah. >>> >>>gw bilang kenyataan bhw banyak, banyak sekali muslimah yg bahagia.. >>>lu yg penuh fitnah dalam ngelibas islam dan orang islam di milis ini,... >>>yang..gw yakin kgak bahagia.. >>> >>>kasihaaaannn... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:29 AM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> Jadi lu suka ngeliat dan ngedenger cewek tetangga lu ketawa2, berarti lu >>>> ga ngikutin ajaran Islam yg nindas cewek. Tetangga lu itu udah disunat >>>> belum itilnya? >>>> >>>> Hehehe.... spt yg gua bilang sebelumnya, orang Islam plus plus itu ga >>>> peduli sama sekali dgn nasib cewek yg ditindas di negara syariat iblis, spt >>>> cewek yg diperkosa di waktu msh anak2, cewek yg disunat itilnya, cewek yg >>>> disiksa di rumahnya oleh lakinya dsb. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com> >>>> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >>>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:19 AM >>>> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite >>>> >>>> > >>>> >tetangga gw 8 bersaudara, perempuan semua... udah pada kawin, dan >>>> >berbahagia.. kalo ngumpul ketawa mereka lepas sampai kita tetangganya >>>> >merasakan kegembiraan mrk. >>>> > >>>> >gw pernah ikut latihan chen-qi di china... suhu kita bilang,.. ngesek itu >>>> >perlu, tp orgasm merupakan pemborosan energi yg besar.. >>>> > >>>> >supaya ingat, si item sinting ini adalah orang yg mau melibas islam dan >>>> >orang islam di milis ini... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:11 AM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> ** >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Islam itu emang laknatan lil alamin >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> PAKISTAN-INDIA >>>> >> Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite >>>> >> By Zofeen Ebrahim >>>> >> >>>> >> KARACHI, Jan 30, 2012 (IPS) - "It was a dark and dingy room, where an >>>> >> elderly woman asked me to take off my panties, made me sit on a low >>>> wooden >>>> >> stool with my legs parted and then did something…I screamed out in >>>> pain," >>>> >> recalls Alefia Mustansir, 40, of her childhood experience. >>>> >> >>>> >> Her friend, Sakina Haider, remembers "putting up a good fight" before >>>> she >>>> >> succumbed. "I was told by my grandmother that I was being taken to the >>>> >> doctor to address burning in the genital area when soap went there while >>>> >> bathing!" >>>> >> >>>> >> Both Haider and Mustansir have refused to have their daughters undergo >>>> >> circumcision or female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C), the Dawoodi >>>> >> Bohras’ best-kept secret until young women from the community first >>>> began >>>> >> to speak up against it a few years ago. >>>> >> >>>> >> Bohras, a sub-sect of Ismaili Shia Muslims, are a tight-knit community, >>>> >> with a majority residing in India and Pakistan, and estimated to number >>>> two >>>> >> million the world over. >>>> >> >>>> >> An article in the Dec. 12 issue of the popular Indian weekly ‘Outlook’ >>>> >> says: "Khatna (circumcision) is a tradition the Bohras trace back to >>>> their >>>> >> origins in (north) Africa, one they continue with because they see this >>>> as >>>> >> an attempt to stay true to their faith." >>>> >> >>>> >> The Outlook article goes on to say that "most Bohra women and men even >>>> >> today would rather keep this practice a secret rather than question a >>>> >> custom that is now universally seen as a gross violation of a woman’s >>>> >> body." >>>> >> >>>> >> The World Health Organisation defines FGM/C as a procedure that >>>> >> "intentionally alters or injures female genital organs for non-medical >>>> >> reasons." FGM/C, as practiced in some African countries, may involve >>>> >> removal of the entire clitoris and labia. >>>> >> >>>> >> The practice persists in 28 African countries, as well as in some Middle >>>> >> Eastern countries with varying degrees of cutting or mutilation. African >>>> >> countries that have banned it include Burkina Faso, Central African >>>> >> Republic, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Togo, Uganda, Kenya and Egypt. >>>> >> >>>> >> Bohras insist that their practice is not harmful since it is done with >>>> >> care and moderation. Many justify it as a means to curb a woman’s sexual >>>> >> drive and keep her chaste. >>>> >> >>>> >> Haider finds that argument "highly problematic" and sees it as a way of >>>> >> controlling women. >>>> >> >>>> >> Dr. Nighat Shah, former president of the Society of Obstetricians and >>>> >> Gynaecologists in Pakistan, finds it hard to believe that a community as >>>> >> "progressive and educated" as the Bohras carries out this practice. >>>> >> >>>> >> "Medically speaking," she explained, "a little snip or clip (of the >>>> >> clitoris) may not affect childbirth, but it may rob the woman of sexual >>>> >> pleasure. It is a very sensitive tissue." >>>> >> >>>> >> Another gynaecologist and obstetrician, Dr. Shershah Syed, finds no >>>> >> medical benefit to support female circumcision. "I am no religious >>>> scholar, >>>> >> so if a community believes it is an Islamic injunction, I’d suggest the >>>> >> girls should at least be old enough to understand the reason so that >>>> they >>>> >> can make an informed decision." >>>> >> >>>> >> "Why do women’s sexual drives have to be curbed?" Haider asks. "Women >>>> who >>>> >> are not circumcised are not necessarily promiscuous!" she says. >>>> >> >>>> >> A young Indian girl belonging to this Muslim sect, who goes by the name >>>> of >>>> >> Tasleem, has now found the courage to initiate an online petition asking >>>> >> the community’s high priest, Dr. Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin, to have >>>> this >>>> >> "cruel, inhuman and undemocratic ritual" stopped. >>>> >> >>>> >> The petition addressed to the 96-year-old prelate, who is based in the >>>> >> western Indian city of Mumbai, states: "Such a barbaric ritual has no >>>> place >>>> >> in a progressive community like the Bohras. So we pray to His Holiness >>>> to >>>> >> stop this misogynist ritual." Mustansir and Haider are in a minority >>>> among >>>> >> Bohra women who refuse to accept the practice. Most still get their >>>> >> daughters circumcised because it is an order from the community’s high >>>> >> priest. >>>> >> >>>> >> "I have blind faith in my leader. I believe there must be some goodness >>>> in >>>> >> this that there is so much insistence," said Zahabia Mohammad, 38, >>>> mother >>>> >> of three circumcised daughters. >>>> >> >>>> >> Mohammad conceded that her own experience was "gross" and "barbaric", >>>> but >>>> >> justifies its continuation because "it is done in a very safe manner >>>> today >>>> >> by doctors." >>>> >> >>>> >> She was present for all of her daughters’ circumcisions. "It takes less >>>> >> than five minutes and the procedure is done under local anaesthesia. >>>> Just a >>>> >> very minute bit of the clitoris is clipped off," she said. >>>> >> >>>> >> She acknowledged she had little information on the rite except what was >>>> >> told her by an aunt "that the foreskin of the clitoris is unclean and >>>> >> circumcision is for the benefit of the women." >>>> >> >>>> >> She also concedes that today, with a deluge of information circulating >>>> >> against this practice, it is imperative to equip the community with >>>> >> information to enable them to make informed decisions. >>>> >> >>>> >> "Not everyone will accept this blindly, not the next generation. They >>>> will >>>> >> question and prod, so it is important to prepare them," she says of a >>>> rite >>>> >> that is kept secret from male members of the sect. >>>> >> >>>> >> Tasleem told Outlook that genital cutting happens in all strata of Bohra >>>> >> society. "I’d say 90 percent practise it." >>>> >> >>>> >> Arwa Mohammad, who is in her 20s, signed the petition because "it’s >>>> >> archaic and nonsensical." She was circumcised when she was seven by her >>>> >> grandmother’s doctor friend. "Just goes to show how this ritual >>>> perpetuates >>>> >> without anyone questioning!" >>>> >> >>>> >> Married a year back, Mohammad was "not traumatised" for life for getting >>>> >> circumcised, but cannot comprehend the reason still. "I have friends who >>>> >> have been circumcised like me but have a high sex drive. On the other >>>> hand, >>>> >> she admits to "frigidity" in bed. >>>> >> >>>> >> "The thought of snipping off a bit of a young child’s clitoris gives me >>>> >> the goosebumps," said 37-year-old uncircumcised Amena Ali. She refuses >>>> to >>>> >> put her two daughters, aged six and eight - considered the right age >>>> band >>>> >> for circumcision - under the blade. >>>> >> >>>> >> The petition, put up last October, has opened an animated forum for >>>> >> discussion on both sides of the border, perhaps for the very first time, >>>> >> within the community on a subject that was taboo. >>>> >> >>>> >> "Initially, only the non-Bohras were signing, but once the media got >>>> into >>>> >> the act, many women from the community openly began talking about their >>>> >> painful experience," Tasleem told IPS in an email exchange from India. >>>> >> >>>> >> So far, Tasleem has been able to collect 1,059 signatures. "I will keep >>>> >> this going till Dr. Syedna bans it. Raising awareness is the first step >>>> >> towards solving the problem." >>>> >> >>>> >> "Whether the ritual will be abolished by this petition, only time will >>>> >> tell," says Zainab Hussain, 49, but she feels the petition will make a >>>> >> difference. "They (community leaders) may eventually break their silence >>>> >> and give a plausible answer." >>>> >> >>>> >> (END) >>>> >> >>>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> > >>>> >Post message: prole...@egroups.com >>>> >Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com >>>> >Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com >>>> >List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com >>>> >Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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