Volume 3, Book 46, Number 717: Narrated Ibn Aun: >I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to my letter that the Prophet >had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless >and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting >men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the >Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Nafi said that Ibn 'Umar had told him the >above narration and that Ibn 'Umar was in that army. > > > ________________________________ Volume 3, Book 46, Number 718: Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: >I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We >went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured >some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was >pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked >Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you >not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the >Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."
>________________________________ > From: item abu <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:19 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >Jadi lu ga mau ngaku apa yg dibilang di hadis ini, bukan? > >>________________________________ >> From: johny_indon <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:19 PM >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >> >> >> >> >> >>pertama jadi lu mengimani hadis ya, kita catet itu. >>kedua, lu ngerti bahasa inggris ngga sih? >> >>--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >>> >>> Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459: >>> Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: >>> >I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and >>> >asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went >>> >out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we >>> >received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and >>> >celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when >>> >we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus >>> >interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We >>> >asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for >>> >if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it >>> >will exist." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >________________________________ >>> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...> >>> >To: [email protected] >>> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:11 AM >>> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. >>> >sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa nabi >>> >melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. >>> >gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. >>> > >>> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan >>> >> pejihad2 Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >________________________________ >>> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> >>> >> >To: [email protected] >>> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM >>> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. >>> >> >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti kekerasan" >>> >> >itu adalah >>> >> >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara >>> >> >serbia >>> >> >terhadap muslim bosnia. >>> >> >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. >>> >> >luar biasa! >>> >> > >>> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu mau >>> >> >> mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >________________________________ >>> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> >>> >> >> >To: [email protected] >>> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM >>> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah >>> >> >> >keberatan dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh kresten >>> >> >> >serbia yg terjadi >>> >> >> >di abad 20 ini. >>> >> >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di >>> >> >> >> jaman Ottoman, goblok. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >________________________________ >>> >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> >>> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM >>> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚ >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. >>> >> >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu. >>> >> >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan kresten >>> >> >> >> >serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu udah >>> >> >> >> >sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka >>> >> >> >> >ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka". >>> >> >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis pembantaian >>> >> >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta di >>> >> >> >> >depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? >>> >> >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia >>> >> >> >> >sudah semakin beradab. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang >>> >> >> >> >Islam, tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati >>> >> >> >> >teroris >>> >> >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua >>> >> >> >> >orang islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. >>> >> >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem >>> >> >> >> >sejuta basa dia. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg >>> >> >> >> >> dilakukan demi auloh. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn >>> >> >> >> >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang >>> >> >> >> >> Islam, tp orang "Kristen". >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka berjihad >>> >> >> >> >> di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw pejihad2 yg >>> >> >> >> >> ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi auloh dan ga >>> >> >> >> >> sesuai dgn ajaran Islam? >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, >>> >> >> >> >> jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang >>> >> >> >> >> Islam thd mereka. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >>> >> >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> >>> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? >>> >> >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes >>> >> >> >> >> >of Muslim females. ***** >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that >>> >> >> >> >> >had been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including the >>> >> >> >> >> >Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic >>> >> >> >> >> >Albanians (Muslims). >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >*** >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers >>> >> >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, >>> >> >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >*** >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs gained >>> >> >> >> >> >ground, they began to systematically roundup local Muslims in >>> >> >> >> >> >scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred under the >>> >> >> >> >> >Nazis during World War II, including mass shootings, forced >>> >> >> >> >> >repopulation of entire towns, and confinement in make-shift >>> >> >> >> >> >concentration camps for men and boys. The Serbs also >>> >> >> >> >> >terrorized Muslim families into fleeing their villages by >>> >> >> >> >> >using rape as a weapon against women and girls. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic cleansing,' a >>> >> >> >> >> >name which quickly took hold among the international media. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >*** >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and >>> >> >> >> >> >the European Community would not take militarily action, Serbs >>> >> >> >> >> >in Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >*** >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the >>> >> >> >> >> >four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, >>> >> >> >> >> >U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the >>> >> >> >> >> >command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and >>> >> >> >> >> >then slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of >>> >> >> >> >> >twelve and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World >>> >> >> >> >> >War II. In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass >>> >> >> >> >> >rapes of Muslim females. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg ngebantai >>> >> >> >> >> >> orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi auloh tuh. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >>> >> >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai berdarah >>> >> >> >> >> >> >dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh nistanya..... >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua >>> >> >> >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" >>> >> >> >> >> >> ><johny_indon@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom jelas >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> atheist. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai berdarah >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dingin >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> alias pol pot, misalnya. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bahasa >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dibunuh. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an agrarian >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> utopia. The cities were evacuated, factories and schools >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> were closed, and currency and private property was >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> abolished. Anyone believed to be an intellectual, such as >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> someone who spoke a foreign language, was immediately >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> killed. Skilled workers were also killed, in addition to >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> anyone caught in possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or any other modern technology. In forced marches >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> punctuated with atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> millions who failed to escape Cambodia were herded onto >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> rural collective farms. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit pencerahan >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa atheisme juga >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > masih buta dalam pencarian nya... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan einstein >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai nara sumber >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau nara sumber >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > spiritual, masak iya sih.... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > adalah pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi etc... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ gerakan" >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > islam protestant " >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > telah lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ amburadul >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade kimhooknisme >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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