Nggak sering tuh, if ever, kita denger mansuai berotak cebol johny-indon, anak serdadu yang diajar membunuh manusia itu menyatakan tentangannnya terhadap berbagai pembantaian yang dilakukan serdadu Indonesia baik diberbagai daerah di Indonesia maupun di Timor Leste .
--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@...> wrote: > > > > gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. > sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa nabi > melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. > gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan pejihad2 > > Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu? > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. > > >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti kekerasan" itu > > >adalah > > >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara serbia > > >terhadap muslim bosnia. > > >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. > > >luar biasa! > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu mau > > >> mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >à> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah keberatan > > >> >dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia yg > > >> >terjadi > > >> >di abad 20 ini. > > >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. > > >> > > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di jaman > > >> >> Ottoman, goblok. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >________________________________ > > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Ãâà> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. > > >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu. > > >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan kresten > > >> >> >serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu udah sekian > > >> >> >lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas > > >> >> >apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka". > > >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis pembantaian > > >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta di > > >> >> >depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? > > >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia > > >> >> >sudah semakin beradab. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang Islam, > > >> >> >tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati teroris > > >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua orang > > >> >> >islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. > > >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? > > >> >> > > > >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem sejuta > > >> >> >basa dia. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg > > >> >> >> dilakukan demi auloh. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn ajaran > > >> >> >> Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang Islam, tp > > >> >> >> orang "Kristen". > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka berjihad di > > >> >> >> jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw pejihad2 yg ngebantai > > >> >> >> non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi auloh dan ga sesuai dgn > > >> >> >> ajaran Islam? > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi > > >> >> >> ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd > > >> >> >> mereka. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >________________________________ > > >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM > > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? > > >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of > > >> >> >> >Muslim females. ***** > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that had > > >> >> >> >been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including the Serbs > > >> >> >> >(Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic Albanians > > >> >> >> >(Muslims). > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >*** > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers > > >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, > > >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >*** > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs gained > > >> >> >> >ground, they began to systematically roundup local Muslims in > > >> >> >> >scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred under the Nazis > > >> >> >> >during World War II, including mass shootings, forced > > >> >> >> >repopulation of entire towns, and confinement in make-shift > > >> >> >> >concentration camps for men and boys. The Serbs also terrorized > > >> >> >> >Muslim families into fleeing their villages by using rape as a > > >> >> >> >weapon against women and girls. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic cleansing,' a > > >> >> >> >name which quickly took hold among the international media. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >*** > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and the > > >> >> >> >European Community would not take militarily action, Serbs in > > >> >> >> >Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >*** > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the > > >> >> >> >four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, > > >> >> >> >U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the > > >> >> >> >command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and then > > >> >> >> >slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of twelve > > >> >> >> >and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World War II. > > >> >> >> >In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of > > >> >> >> >Muslim females. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg ngebantai > > >> >> >> >> orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi auloh tuh. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > > >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > > >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM > > >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai berdarah > > >> >> >> >> >dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh nistanya..... > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua perbuatan > > >> >> >> >> >tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> > > >> >> >> >> >wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya > > >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom jelas > > >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena > > >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini > > >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) > > >> >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' > > >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. > > >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein atheist. > > >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. > > >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai berdarah > > >> >> >> >> >> dingin > > >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar alias > > >> >> >> >> >> pol pot, misalnya. > > >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa bahasa > > >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu > > >> >> >> >> >> dibunuh. > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about transforming > > >> >> >> >> >> the country into his vision of an agrarian utopia. The > > >> >> >> >> >> cities were evacuated, factories and schools were closed, > > >> >> >> >> >> and currency and private property was abolished. Anyone > > >> >> >> >> >> believed to be an intellectual, such as someone who spoke a > > >> >> >> >> >> foreign language, was immediately killed. Skilled workers > > >> >> >> >> >> were also killed, in addition to anyone caught in possession > > >> >> >> >> >> of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, or any other modern technology. > > >> >> >> >> >> In forced marches punctuated with atrocities from the Khmer > > >> >> >> >> >> Rouge, the millions who failed to escape Cambodia were > > >> >> >> >> >> herded onto rural collective farms. > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit pencerahan > > >> >> >> >> >> > tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa atheisme juga > > >> >> >> >> >> > masih buta dalam pencarian nya... > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan einstein > > >> >> >> >> >> > sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai nara sumber > > >> >> >> >> >> > bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau nara sumber > > >> >> >> >> >> > spiritual, masak iya sih.... > > >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat adalah > > >> >> >> >> >> > pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. > > >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi etc... > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar > > >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali > > >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàgerakan" islam > > >> >> >> >> >> > > protestant " > > >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini telah > > >> >> >> >> >> > > lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak > > >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan > > >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàamburadul > > >> >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme > > >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade kimhooknisme > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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