Saya baru akan percaya bila dia tunjukkan nama bapaknya dan pangkatnya serta kesatuannnya....
--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@...> wrote: > > > > sori plik, gua banyak kerjaan, ngga kayak elu yg banyak waktu. > selain itu, waktu luang gua juga lebih banyak dipake buat liburan > dan melakukan hal2 yg menyenangkan. > bapak gua juga tidak pernah memimpin atau ikut membantai manusia. > > cukup segitu plik? > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > johny-indo yang adalah anak serdadu itu nggak sering, if ever, > > memasaalahkan begitu banyak pembantaian yang dilakukan serdadu Indonesia > > selama ini, baik di berbagai daerah di Indonesia maupun di Timor Leste.. > > > > Dia juga tidak pernah mengatakah bahwa bapaknya TIDAK pernah memimpin atau > > ikut membantai manusia.. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > Lu ga mempermasalahkan pembantaian thd orang2 Kristen Serbia oleh orang > > > Islam, bukan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:21 AM > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (otak cebol yang busuk di > > > >batok kepala johny-undon.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >tolol goblok dungu. > > > >gua ngga mempermasalahkan ajaran kresten atau bukan. > > > >yg gua bilang adalah ada kresten2 biadab yg membantai muslim di bosnia, > > > >dan ini sudah diakui masyarakat dunia sebagai ethnic cleansing abad 20. > > > > > > > >lagian kalimat si bleki yg menganggap lumrah pembantaian serbia thd > > > >muslim bosnia itu yg ini: > > > > > > > >"Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga > > > >aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka." > > > > > > > >dan si bleki, juga elu, samasekali ngga mengecam apa yg dilakukan > > > >tentara serbia itu. > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Persis kayak anjing chihuahua yang demen menggongong asal manyalak > > > >> johny-indon menggongong lagi sekedar unjuk isi otak cebolnya yang > > > >> sudah rusak > > > >> dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. > > > >> > > > >> Begitu busuk otak cebolnya hingga dia pelintir omongan item abu yang > > > >> bilang "Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn > > > >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang Islam, tp > > > >> orang "Kristen"." menjadi: "item abu "menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan > > > >> dan pembantaian tentara serbia > > > >> terhadap muslim bosnia. " > > > >> > > > >> Dan seperti Teddy yang otaknya juga sudah rusak johny-indon juga tidak > > > >> paham tulisan satiris item abu tentang perempuan yang melolong karena > > > >> disiksa. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Kasihan saya melihat johny-indon yang adalah korban didikan bapaknya > > > >> yang serdadu yang diajar untuk membunuh manusia dan yang duh buasnya, > > > >> duh > > > >> kejamnya, duh kejinya, duh zalimnya, duh ganasnya dan duh biadabnya > > > >> hingga tega-teganya dia memperlakukan anaknya sendiri seperti anjing > > > >> budug dan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Akibantya otak johny-indo itu ciut hingga jadi, by a manner of > > > >> speaking, sekecil biji peler anjing chihuahua.. > > > >> > > > >> Sudah tahunan dia menggongong asal menyalah seperti dibawah ini ini > > > >> sembari pamer keterbatasan kapasitas otak cebolnya itu.. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. > > > >> > ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti > > > >> > kekerasan" itu adalah > > > >> > bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara > > > >> > serbia > > > >> > terhadap muslim bosnia. > > > >> > si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. > > > >> > luar biasa! > > > >> > > > > >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu > > > >> > > mau mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >________________________________ > > > >> > > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> > > >To: [email protected] > > > >> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > > > >> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >à> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah > > > >> > > >keberatan dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh > > > >> > > >kresten serbia yg terjadi > > > >> > > >di abad 20 ini. > > > >> > > >dasar elu kresten biadab. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di > > > >> > > >> jaman Ottoman, goblok. > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > > >> > > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> > > >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> > > >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM > > > >> > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >Ãâà> > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. > > > >> > > >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu. > > > >> > > >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan > > > >> > > >> >kresten serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu > > > >> > > >> >udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo > > > >> > > >> >mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka". > > > >> > > >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis > > > >> > > >> >pembantaian > > > >> > > >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta > > > >> > > >> >di depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? > > > >> > > >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia > > > >> > > >> >sudah semakin beradab. > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang > > > >> > > >> >Islam, tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati > > > >> > > >> >teroris > > > >> > > >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua > > > >> > > >> >orang islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. > > > >> > > >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem > > > >> > > >> >sejuta basa dia. > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg > > > >> > > >> >> dilakukan demi auloh. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn > > > >> > > >> >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang > > > >> > > >> >> Islam, tp orang "Kristen". > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka > > > >> > > >> >> berjihad di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw > > > >> > > >> >> pejihad2 yg ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi > > > >> > > >> >> auloh dan ga sesuai dgn ajaran Islam? > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, > > > >> > > >> >> jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang > > > >> > > >> >> Islam thd mereka. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >________________________________ > > > >> > > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM > > > >> > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? > > > >> > > >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass > > > >> > > >> >> >rapes of Muslim females. ***** > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that > > > >> > > >> >> >had been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including > > > >> > > >> >> >the Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and > > > >> > > >> >> >ethnic Albanians (Muslims). > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >*** > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers > > > >> > > >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, > > > >> > > >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >*** > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs > > > >> > > >> >> >gained ground, they began to systematically roundup local > > > >> > > >> >> >Muslims in scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred > > > >> > > >> >> >under the Nazis during World War II, including mass > > > >> > > >> >> >shootings, forced repopulation of entire towns, and > > > >> > > >> >> >confinement in make-shift concentration camps for men and > > > >> > > >> >> >boys. The Serbs also terrorized Muslim families into > > > >> > > >> >> >fleeing their villages by using rape as a weapon against > > > >> > > >> >> >women and girls. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic > > > >> > > >> >> >cleansing,' a name which quickly took hold among the > > > >> > > >> >> >international media. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >*** > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and > > > >> > > >> >> >the European Community would not take militarily action, > > > >> > > >> >> >Serbs in Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >*** > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of > > > >> > > >> >> >the four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe > > > >> > > >> >> >Haven, U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs > > > >> > > >> >> >under the command of General Ratko Mladic systematically > > > >> > > >> >> >selected and then slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys > > > >> > > >> >> >between the ages of twelve and sixty - the worst mass > > > >> > > >> >> >murder in Europe since World War II. In addition, the Serbs > > > >> > > >> >> >continued to engage in mass rapes of Muslim females. > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg > > > >> > > >> >> >> ngebantai orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi > > > >> > > >> >> >> auloh tuh. > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >________________________________ > > > >> > > >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> > > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM > > > >> > > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai > > > >> > > >> >> >> >berdarah dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh nistanya..... > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua > > > >> > > >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" > > > >> > > >> >> >> ><johny_indon@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> jelas > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> atheist. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> berdarah dingin > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> alias pol pot, misalnya. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> bahasa > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> dibunuh. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> agrarian utopia. The cities were evacuated, factories > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> and schools were closed, and currency and private > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> property was abolished. Anyone believed to be an > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> intellectual, such as someone who spoke a foreign > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> language, was immediately killed. Skilled workers were > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> also killed, in addition to anyone caught in > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, or any other > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> modern technology. In forced marches punctuated with > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the millions who > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> failed to escape Cambodia were herded onto rural > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> collective farms. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> wrote: > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > pencerahan tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > atheisme juga masih buta dalam pencarian nya... > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > einstein sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > nara sumber bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > nara sumber spiritual, masak iya sih.... > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > adalah pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > etc... > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàgerakan" > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > islam protestant " > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > telah lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàamburadul > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > kimhooknisme > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > removed] > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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