oh,jadi lu pikir swedia tempat lu jadi benalu di sono itu 
apbn nya kagak ditambal pake utang ya?
lu pasti kagak tau bahwa hampir semua negara menggunakan sistem 
defisit anggaran alias ngutang.
cuman ada 4 negara yg kagak punya utang: brunei, taiwan, macau 
dan liechtenstein.

dan swedia yg lu bangga2in itu, adalah negara pengutang urutan 15 
di dunia dengan jumlah utang US$ 853,300,000,000 !!!
(itu angka per 2010, sekarang pasti lebih gede lagi).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

padahal baru kemaren gua kuliahin elu cara baca debt to gdp ratio.
tapi dasar kurang protein, masih ga ngarti2 juga.
kayaknya mesti dikasih contoh nyata ya.

ni baca baik2, jangan nyari kutu melulu:

swedia:
gdp: $379.4 billion
debt to gdp ratio: 33%
tingkat pengangguran: 7,9%
cadangan devisa: US$51.526 billion 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

indonesia:
gdp: $1.0 trillion
debt to gdp ratio: 24,5%
tingkat pengangguran: 6,56%
cadangan devisa: $105.709 billion 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Indonesia

gimana, kira2 bisa ngerti ngga baca angka2 di atas?
kalo ngga ngerti coba baca lagi 10x bolak balik.

jadi mbon, sebelum ngritik negara batur, lu cari info dulu yg bener 
biar ngga jadi bahan tertawaan 1301 member proletar.
sebelum cari info yg bener, konsumsi protein dibenerin dulu, baru 
situ boleh cari kutu.



--- In [email protected], "Sunny" <ambon@...> wrote:
>
> Bagaimana bisa maju kalau untuk  menggenapi APBN harus pinjam tiap tahun? 
> Hutangnya sudah kurang lebih lebih US$ 235 miliar atau sama dengan hutang 
> hutang Pak Harto selama 32 tahun berkuasa.  
> 
> From: johny_indon 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:21 AM
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesia, Australia to discuss C-130 Hercules
> 
>   
> 
> 
> gimana bisa maju, kalau meralat terjemahan aja ngga mau.
> kepalang malu, jadinya terus2an ngebahas kutu.
> 
> --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
> >
> > Lupa makan kutu?
> > 
> > From: arra_s 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:10 AM
> > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesia, Australia to discuss C-130 Hercules
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > mungkin ini informasi diri..
> > karena sering makan kutu sbg sumber proteinnya, maka terjadi ngawur..
> > 
> > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > lha, ini dikasih kesempatan buat ngeralat terjemahannya yg ngawur itu 
> > > malah 
> > > ngomongin kutu. 
> > > jadi elu bener2 yakin bahwa "grant"="ngutang"? 
> > > kalau yakin sih ngga apa2. 
> > > di swedia bego itu ngga kena pajak koq. 
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > makan kutu tambah protein
> > > > 
> > > > From: johny_indon 
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:32 PM
> > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesia, Australia to discuss C-130 Hercules
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > jadi imigran di negri bule memang bukan jaminan bakal lancar bahasa 
> > > > inggris. 
> > > > terlebih lagi jika si imigran berasal dari kampung yg kekurangan 
> > > > protein. 
> > > > akibatnya kata grant diartikan ngutang. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ref: NKRI kasi pinjam US$ 1,â€"miliar untuk IMF, tetapi 
> > > > > untuk beli 5 pesawat terbang Hercules C-130 mengutang dari Australia. 
> > > > > Gambar pesawat seperti tertera dibawah ini :
> > > > > 
> > > > > C-130 Hercules 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/83193/indonesia-australia-to-discuss-c-130-hercules
> > > > > Indonesia, Australia to discuss C-130 Hercules
> > > > > Mon, July 2 2012 16:41 | 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Related News
> > > > > a.. Indonesia to improve cattle farm partnership with Australia 
> > > > > b.. President Yudhoyono arrives in Darwin 
> > > > > c.. President Yudhoyono leaves for Darwin 
> > > > > d.. President scheduled to leave for Darwin 
> > > > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Indonesia and Australia are all set to 
> > > > > finalize an Australian grant for five C-130 Hercules in the coming 
> > > > > days.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Monday, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said that the deal was 
> > > > > included as part of the President`s agenda during his visit to Darwin 
> > > > > that has been scheduled between Monday and Wednesday.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "This evening, there will be a meeting between the Indonesian and the 
> > > > > Australian Defense Ministers. There will be (a deal for) five C-130 
> > > > > Hercules from Australia, in the form of a grant, with some cost 
> > > > > (borne by) Indonesia," said Yudhoyono in a press conference at Halim 
> > > > > Perdanakusuma Airbase, East Jakarta.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yudhoyono also explained that Indonesia needs newer transport 
> > > > > airplanes, following a Fokker crash that resulted in the grounding of 
> > > > > similar aircrafts. Earlier, the Indonesian Air Force was preparing CN 
> > > > > 295 aircrafts, which had a bigger capacity, as a substitute for 
> > > > > Fokker 27. Nevertheless, President Yudhoyono said that the Air Force 
> > > > > would redevelop C-130 Hercules, once owned by Indonesia.
> > > > > 
> > > > > During his visit to Darwin, the President and the First Lady Ani 
> > > > > Yudhoyono are also scheduled to visit a joint hospital that was built 
> > > > > for the victims of natural disasters of both countries. The President 
> > > > > will also witness a disaster management rehearsal and its emergency 
> > > > > response, which will be carried out by the Australians.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Indonesia and Australia, said Yudhoyono, would continue to increase 
> > > > > bilateral cooperation as both were members of G-20, Asia-Pacific 
> > > > > Economics Cooperation (APEC) and East Asia Summit. This bilateral 
> > > > > cooperation is expected to be beneficial for both countries.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The President was also accompanied by Coordinating Minister for 
> > > > > Economic Affair Hatta Rajasa, Coordinating Minister for Political 
> > > > > Legal and Security Affairs Djoko Suyanto, Foreign Minister Marty 
> > > > > Natalegawa, Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro, State Secretary 
> > > > > Minister Sudi Silalahi, Indonesian Military (TNI) Chief Adm. Agus 
> > > > > Suhartono and Cabinet Secretary Dipo Alam.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A number of governors were also part of the visit including Balinese 
> > > > > Made Mangku Pastika, East Nusa Tenggara Frans Lebu Raya and West 
> > > > > Papua Abraham Ataruri.
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