Hehehe... knp si habe diam aja ga berani bilang apakah dia ngedukung ngembat anak ingusan apa kagak spt yg dihalalkan di Quran?
>________________________________ > From: item abu <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:15 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] CNN: Episcopal Church approves same-sex blessing >service > > > >Hehehe... ga heran si habe ini ngebela Islam mati2an, krn dia tau bhw Quran >ngehalalin ngembat anak ingusan dan perbudakan. > >Dgn kata lain, si habe ngedukung ngembat anak ingusan dan perbudakan, coba >kalo ga di Amrik tp di Arab, si habe udah ngembat anak ingusan, bukan? > >>________________________________ >> From: Habe Proletar <[email protected]> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:34 PM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] CNN: Episcopal Church approves same-sex blessing >>service >> >> >> >>kalo berniat ngawinin si item, ngga usah ragu ragu plik >>jangan pake forward berita segala >>kawinin aja...kaapan kasih undangan? >> >>________________________________ >>From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:11 AM >>Subject: [proletar] CNN: Episcopal Church approves same-sex blessing service >> >> >> >> >>Di dar al Islam homoseksual itu dipersekusi, diseret ke depan pengadilan, >>malah ada yang dihukum mati sesuai dengan ajaran agama najis Islam.. >> >>[CNN] >> >>Episcopal Church approves same-sex blessing service - CNN.com >>By Michael Pearson , CNN >>July 11, 2012 -- Updated 0130 GMT (0930 HKT) >> >>CNN.com >>Episcopal priests will now be able to bless same-sex relationships. >>Episcopal priests will now be able to bless same-sex relationships. >> >>(CNN) -- Episcopal priests will be allowed to conduct services blessing >>same-sex relationships under a policy approved Tuesday at the church's >>national convention in Indianapolis. >> >>The convention's House of Bishops approved the provisional policy 111-41 with >>three abstentions Monday, clearing it for consideration by the House of >>Deputies, which approved it Tuesday evening. >> >>The policy was approved in the House of Deputies, following more than an hour >>of debate, by 78% of the voting lay members and by 76% of clergy. >> >>Can 'true Catholics' favor same-sex marriage? >> >>With the vote, the Episcopal Church becomes the largest U.S. denomination to >>officially sanction same-sex relationships. The Episcopal Church has about >>1.95 million members in the United States, down 16% over the last decade, >>according to the church. >> >>The service is not considered a marriage ceremony, media affairs >>representative Nancy Davidge said. >>Gay weddings mean big business >> >>"We have authorized a blessing, and a blessing is different than a marriage," >>she said. "A blessing is a theological response to a monogamous, committed >>relationship." >> >>Marriage requires the additional involvement of civil authorities, and many >>states do not allow gays to marry. >>Gay marriage stance costs pastor a flock >> >>The Episcopal policy calls for a three-year trial run of the blessing >>service, which is called "The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant." >> >>It will be accompanied by a review process leading up to the church's next >>annual convention in Salt Lake City. It's then that church leaders would >>decide whether to make the policy permanent, church media affairs >>representative Neva Rae Fox said. >> >>The vote in the House of Deputies followed comments, including from advocates >>arguing the policy would be a step toward inclusiveness. >> >>Delegate Pete Ross of Michigan said it was time for the church to honor >>lifelong commitments of people in same-sex relationships. >> >>"The signs outside our church says all are welcome. Do we need an asterisk?" >> >>But the Rev. David Thurlow of South Carolina said the policy advocates a "new >>theology" of human sexuality that is inconsistent with church canons and >>doctrine. >> >>The approval means the church is "marching off, not simply out of step, but >>completely out of line from the faith once delivered to the saints," Thurlow >>said before the vote. >> >>The policy, which has been in development since 2009, allows local bishops to >>decide whether to allow the service. It also includes a provision stating >>that clergy members who object to same-sex unions cannot be coerced to >>perform the blessing, or be disciplined for refusing. >> >>As with civil politics, issues involving homosexuality have roiled American >>churches for years. >> >>In 2003, the Episcopal Church in the United States split over the election of >>an openly gay priest, Eugene Robinson, as bishop in New Hampshire. And in >>2009, the church approved a policy allowing the ordination of homosexual >>Episcopalians as priests. >> >>Just this summer, the Presbyterian and Methodist churches rejected measures >>that would have granted formal church recognition to gay relationships. >> >>The United Methodist Church, at its General Conference meeting in Tampa, >>Florida, upheld the church's position on homosexuality, which excludes gay >>marriages and same-sex unions. The Methodist body also rejected a proposal >>saying the church is not of one mind on the issue of homosexuality. >> >>Tech is getting more gay-friendly >> >>This month in Pittsburgh, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA >>decided not to change the church's definition of marriage as being "between a >>man and a woman." Delegates approved a two-year study of the issue. >> >>The only major U.S. denomination to endorse same-sex marriage across the >>board is the United Church of Christ, which did so in 2005. >> >>In 2009, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America allowed member churches >>to recognize same-sex relationships, but stopped short of creating a >>churchwide policy or crafting a specific blessing service. >> >>During Monday's debate, Bishop Nathan Baxter of Central Pennsylvania said the >>policy would allow the church to focus on inclusion while respecting >>theological differences within the church, according to the Episcopal News >>Service. >> >>But others said the policy was a bad idea, the news service reported. >> >>"The Christian world is going to understand us as having changed the nature >>of the sacrament of holy matrimony," the news service quoted Bishop Edward >>Little of Northern Indiana as saying. "The Christian world will look at that >>liturgy world and see vows, and exchange of rings, a pronouncement and a >>blessing and they will understand that to mean the Episcopal Church has >>endorsed same-sex marriage and changed a basic Christian doctrine. I do not >>believe that we are free to do that." >> >>Randall Balmer, a Dartmouth University religion professor and an Episcopal >>priest who supports the change, said he expects little fallout from the >>policy within the American church. Most of the most conservative >>Episcopalians who oppose blessing same-sex relationships have probably >>already left the church, he said. >> >>"In many ways, the church is tracking public sentiment," which is >>increasingly supportive of same-sex relationships, Balmer said ahead of >>Tuesday's vote. "The Episcopal Church is merely part of that trend." >> >>He said it's also unlikely to increase tensions with conservative elements of >>the worldwide Anglican Communion, of which the Episcopal Church is a member. >> >>"I really don't think it will have a major effect. The real divisions already >>occurred over Gene Robinson's consecration in 2003," he said. >> >>But some conservatives within the communion might try to use the decision to >>further marginalize the U.S. church, Balmer said. >> >>As blood donations decline, U.S. ban on gay donors is examined >> >>Google pushes for gay rights with 'Legalize Love' campaign >> >>Wed-locked: Some same-sex couples denied divorce >> >>Rareview: Growing old openly gay >> >>CNN's Eric Marrapodi and Phil Gast contributed to this report. >>© 2012 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. 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