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--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@...> wrote: > > Sebaiknya dicounter dg pakar Embryology Toronto ini: > > Keith L. Moore, Ph.D., F.I.A.C. > The Department of Anatomy, University of Toronto, Canada. > Address all correspondence to: > Keith L. Moore, Ph.D, F.I.A.C., Professor of Anatomy and Associate Dean > Basic Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, Toronto, > Ontario M55 IAB, Canada > > > > Statements referring to human reproduction and development are scattered > throughout the Qur'an. It is only recently that the scientific meaning > of some of these verses has been appreciated fully. The long delay in > interpreting these verses correctly resulted mainly from inaccurate > translations and commentaries and from a lack of awareness of scientific > knowledge. > > Interest in explanations of the verses of the Qur'an is not new. People > used to ask the prophet Muhammad all sorts of questions about the > meaning of verses referring to human reproduction. The Apostle's answers > form the basis of the Hadith literature. > > The translations(*) <http://www.islam101.com/science/embryo.html#trans> > of the verses from the Qur'an which are interpreted in this paper were > provided by Sheik Abdul Majid Zendani, a Professor of Islamic Studies > inKing Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. > "He makes you in the wombs of your mothers in stages, one after another, > in three veils of darkness." > This statement is from Sura 39:6 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya39-1.htm> . We do > not know when it was realized that human beings underwent development in > the uterus (womb), but the first known illustration of a fetus in the > uterus was drawn by Leonardo da Vinci in the 15th century. In the 2nd > century A.D., Galen described the placenta and fetal membranes in his > book"On The Formation of the Foetus." Consequently, doctors in the 7th > century A.D. likely knew that the human embryo developed in the uterus. > It is unlikely that they knew that it developed in stages, even though > Aristotle had described the stages of development of the chick embryo in > the 4th century B.C. The realization that the human embryo develops in > stages was not discussed and illustrated until the 15th century. > > After the microscope was discovered in the 17th century by Leeuwenhoek > descriptions were made of the early stages of the chick embryo. The > staging of human embryos was not described until the 20th century. > Streeter (1941) developed the first system of staging which has now been > replaced by a more accurate system proposed by O'Rahilly (1972). > > "The three veils of darkness" may refer to: (l) the anterior abdominal > wall; (2) the uterine wall; and (3) the amniochorionic membrane (Fig. > 1). Although there are other interpretations of this statement, the one > presented here seems the most logical from an embryological point of > view. > > Figure 1. Drawing of a sagittal section of a female's abdomen and pelvis > showing a fetus in utero. The "veils of darkness" are: (1) the anterior > abdominal wall; (2) the uterine wall, and (3) the amniochorionic > membrane. > > "Then We placed him as a drop in a place of rest."This statement is from > Sura 23:13 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya23-1.htm> . The > drop or nutfah has been interpreted as the sperm or spermatozoon, but a > more meaningful interpretation would be the zygote which divides to form > a blastocyst which is implanted in the uterus ("a place of rest"). This > interpretation is supported by another verse in the Qur'an which states > that "a human being is created from a mixed drop." The zygote forms by > the union of a mixture of the sperm and the ovum ("The mixed > drop")."Then We made the drop into a leech-like structure."This > statement is from Sura 23:14 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya23-1.htm> . The > word "alaqah" refers to a leech or bloodsucker. This is an appropriate > description of the human embryo from days 7-24 when it clings to the > endometrium of the uterus, in the same way that a leech clings to the > skin. Just as the leech derives blood from the host, the human embryo > derives blood from the decidua or pregnant endometrium. It is remarkable > how much the embryo of 23-24 days resembles a leech (Fig. 2). As there > were no microscopes or lenses available in the 7th century, doctors > would not have known that the human embryo had this leech-like > appearance. In the early part of the fourth week, the embryo is just > visible to the unaided eye because it is smaller than a kernel of wheat. > > Figure 2. Top, a drawing of a leech or bloodsucker. > Below, a drawing of a 24 day-old human embryo. Note the leech-like > appearance of the human embryo at this stage.Figure 3. Left, a > plasticine model of the human embryo which has the appearance of chewed > flesh. > Right, a drawing of a 28 day-old human embryo showing several bead-like > somites which resemble the teeth marks in the model shown to the left. > > "Then of that leech-like structure, We made a chewed lump."This > statement is also from Sura 23:14 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya23-1.htm> . The > Arabic word "mudghah" means "chewed substance or chewed lump." Toward > the end of the fourth week, the human embryo looks somewhat like a > chewed lump of flesh (Fig. 3). The chewed appearance results from the > somites which resemble teeth marks. The somites represent the beginnings > or primordia of the vertebrae."Then We made out of the chewed lump, > bones, and clothed the bones in flesh." This continuation of Sura 23:14 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya23-1.htm> > indicates that out of the chewed lump stage, bones and muscles form. > This is in accordance with embryological development. First the bones > form as cartilage models and then the muscles (flesh) develop around > them from the somatic mesoderm."Then We developed out of it another > creature."This next part of Sura 23:14 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya23-1.htm> implies > that the bones and muscles result in the formation of another creature. > This may refer to the human-like embryo that forms by the end of the > eighth week. At this stage it has distinctive human characteristics and > possesses the primordia of all the internal and external organs and > parts. After the eighth week, the human embryo is called a fetus. This > may be the new creature to which the verse refers."And He gave you > hearing and sight and feeling and understanding."This part of Sura 32:9 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya32-1.htm> > indicates that the special senses of hearing, seeing, and feeling > develop in this order, which is true. The primordia of the internal ears > appear before the beginning of the eyes, and the brain (the site of > understanding) differentiates last."Then out of a piece of chewed flesh, > partly formed and partly unformed."This part of Sura 22:5 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya22-1.htm> seems to > indicate that the embryo is composed of both differentiated and > undifferentiated tissues. For example, when the cartilage bones are > differentiated, the embryonic connective tissue or mesenchyme around > them is undifferentiated. It later differentiates into the muscles and > ligaments attached to the bones."And We cause whom We will to rest in > the wombs for an appointed term."This next part of Sura 22:5 > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/ya22-1.htm> seems to > imply that God determines which embryos will remain in the uterus until > full term. It is well known that many embryos abort during the first > month of development, and that only about 30% of zygotes that form, > develop into fetuses that survive until birth. This verse has also been > interpreted to mean that God determines whether the embryo will develop > into a boy or girl. The interpretation of the verses in the Qur'an > referring to human development would not have been possible in the 7th > century A.D., or even a hundred years ago. We can interpret them now > because the science of modern Embryology affords us new understanding. > Undoubtedly there are other verses in the Qur'an related to human > development that will be understood in the future as our knowledge > increases. > > (*) Even though the translations of the verses of the Qur'an in the > above paper were provided by Sheik Abdul Majid Zendani, the links to the > translations in this page are fromYusuf Ali Qur'an Translation > (http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/yali_trans/yasurahl.htm) > presented by the Alim Online > <http://qibla.msa.upenn.edu/alim_online/alimhome.htm> since Sheik > Zendani's translation is not available on the internet. (MSA-UTK) > > Many thanks to Dr.Jamal Badawi who have brought this article to us. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > wrote: > > > > > > Selanjutnya: > > > > > http://www.faktailmiah.com/2010/08/27/perkembangan-embrio-manusia-sains-\ > vs-mitologi.html > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" bukan.pedanda@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/210159 > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REZAMEUTIA menulis: gabby, mana ayat yang katanya manusia > > > > berasal dari tanah di alkitab? katanya lu mau membahas al quran > ama gw secara > > > > scientific, tapi kok malahan ngacir? > > > > � > > > > payah dah... > > > > another kristen cukimai.. > > > > omongnya aja gede, sok ngajakin ngebahas quran secara scientific, > > > > ternyata otaknya kopong. > > > > gabyy, kalo lu cuman bisa copas doang mah mendingan lu ke > > > > pinggir aja deh. udah banyak kristen dungu di milis ini yang > kebisaannya cuman > > > > copas, lu cuman nyampah doang. > > > > � > > > > Bang Reza, > > > > aku sudah kirim beberapa ayat al Qurâan yg menyangkut > sains. Anta lain: > > > > � > > > > 1.� � � Pertumbuhan > > > > janin yg sangat klenik contekan teori Tabib Galen (c. 3centry AD). > Jelas spt > > > > Galen penulis ayat Qurân juga tidak menyadari bhw tanpa > ikut sertanya sel-telor > > > > perempuan (yg harus dibuahi oleh sperma) tidak mungkin terjadi > janin. > > > > 2.� � � Masih > > > > mengenai pertmbuhan janin, Al Qurâan menyatakan bhw ada > tahap pertumbuhan di > > > > mana semua tulang-belulang, tengkorak sudah terbentuk tapi belon > dililit oleh > > > > daging dan kulit. Ini mah spt orang Baduy mendirikan tenda. > > > > 3.� � � Mengenai > > > > Allah berkenan menciptakan 7 langit (sorga) dan 7 bumi. Bukan > lapisan tapi > > > > bener2 tujuh planet bumi. Apa pakar planet dan semesta alam Islam > sudah > > > > menemukan 6 bumi lainnya? > > > > 4.� � � Mnrt > > > > Qurâan Allah mencegah agar bulan dan matahari tidak saling > menyusul. Well, > > > > orbit matahari dan bulan itu tidak sama. (Hanya kalo sama, > se-orbit maka ada > > > > kemungkin susul-menyusul). Orbit bulan dan orbit matahari itu bak > trayek bis Merantama > > > > (dlm kota) dan trayek bis malam antar propinsi. Keduanya tidak > mungkin susul > > > > menyusul. > > > > 5.� � � Di > > > > mana matahari tengggelam? Mnrt Al Qurâan matahari tenggelam > di mata-air keruh > > > > di ujung barat dari bumi. Untuk meyakinkan umat Islam penulis ayat > juga > > > > menyertakan keterangan bhw matahari terbenam itu pernah disaksikan > oleh no less > > > > a personage than Alexander the Great (=Zul Qarnain �" si > Tanduk dua). Ada ayat > > > > lain yg mengatakan bhw matahari terbenam nyungesep di bawah > singgasana (kursi) > > > > Allah dan menunggu izin Allah sebelum terbit lagi! > > > > 6.� � � Mnrt > > > > ayat scientific dari Al Qurâan dijelaskan bhw Allah > menciptakan langit yg tidak > > > > retak dan tidak disangga, ditopang tiang. Artinya mnrt > Qurâan langit itu SOLID! > > > > How scientific. > > > > 7.� � � Mnrt > > > > Qurâan Allah mencampakkan gunung2 ke permukaan bumi. Adapun > tujuannya mnrt > > > > allah supaya permukaan bumi tidak goyang (terkena gempa bumi). Ada > 2 kesalahan sains > > > > di pernyataan di atas. (i) Gunung2 termasuk gunung berapi itu > muncul dari dalam > > > > bumi (gerakan magma atau tabrakan antar continental shelves). (ii) > Spt kita > > > > ketahui di tempat yg banyak gunungnya cenderung rawan terserang > gempa bumi. > > > > Adanya magma yg ngocor keluar atau fractures/ faults karena > tabrakan > > > > continental shelves tsb. > > > > � > > > > Nah, > > > > apakah 7 âfakta sainsâ mnrt Al Qurâan ini > sesuai dengan modern scientific > > > > knowledge atau berlainan? > > > > � > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Friday, 28 September 2012 11:04 PM > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Fw: Japri > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > gabby, mana ayat yang katanya manusia berasal dari tanah di > alkitab? > > > > katanya lu mau membahas al quran ama gw secara scientific, tapi > kok malahan ngacir? > > > > > > > > payah dah... > > > > > > > > another kristen cukimai... > > > > > > > > omongnya aja gede, sok ngajakin ngebahas quran secara scientific, > ternyata otaknya kopong. > > > > > > > > gabyy, kalo lu cuman bisa copas doang mah mendingan lu ke pinggir > aja deh. udah banyak kristen dungu di milis ini yang kebisaannya cuman > copas, lu cuman nyampah doang. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tapi harus kita ingat bhw banyak pegawai negeri: bawahn dan > atasan juga, yg masuk agama Islam karena diberitahu bhw kalo tidak kagak > naik pangkat. Ini di Indonesia. di negara2 Islami spt Mesir, Pakistan, > Iran, dst. kadang2 si mualaf diberi pilihan 'amsuk Islam' atawa > 'digantung'. Sebagian yg diberi pilihan (adil, 'kan?!) mengatakan > praktik ini juga dilakukan pd zaman permulaan Islam oleh tidak lain > daripada Nabi Muhammad sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > Kalo anda ada peluang makan-angin ke Oman sebelum masuk kota ada > gerbang megah. Di situ tertulsi dlm Bahasa Arab dan ada terjemahan > Inggrisnya peringatan sbb. Kalau kamu (raja Kristen di sono dulu) dan > sodara laki2mu menerima Islam, maka kedudukanmu akan selamat, kerajaanmu > juga tidak akan kami serang. Sebaliknya kalau mau masup Islam maka > tenang2 saya kerajaanmu akan tidak aku hancurkan. DASAR PREMAN! > > > > > > > > > > Berikut ini aku copy & paste 'peringatan & ajakan' yg disertai > ancaman dari Nabi Junjungan. > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > Muhammadââ¬â¢s Letter to the King of ââ¬ËOman, > Jaifer, and his Brother ââ¬ËAbd Al-Jalandi:[5] > > > > > "In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most > Merciful. > > > > > From Muhammad bin ââ¬ËAbdullah to Jaifer and > ââ¬ËAbd Al-Jalandi. > > > > > Peace be upon him who follows true guidance; > > > > > thereafter I invite both of you to the Call of Islam. Embrace > Islam. > > > > > Allâh has sent me as a Prophet to all His creatures in > order that I may instil fear of Allâh in the hearts of His > disobedient creatures so > > > > > that there may be left no excuse for those who deny > Allâh. If you two > > > > > accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but > if you > > > > > refuse my Call, youââ¬â¢ve got to remember that all > your possessions are > > > > > perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my > Prophethood > > > > > will assume preponderance over your kingship." > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
