Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu kadang ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda.
Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu sendiri, bukan? On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Goyim tolol > > Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh > istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah > dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 > tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah > hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun > pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan > Muhammad > pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] > Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > > > > ________________________________ > From: itemabu2 <itema...@gmail.com> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > Menurut Tabari > > “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two > branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with > some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped > so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was > sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The > other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his > marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a > camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.” > Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 > > > > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Goyim tolol >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 >> tahun >> lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah hidup >> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] Apabila >> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> Hijrah, >> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada waktu >> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> dirinya >> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan ini >> juga >> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: itemabu2 <itema...@gmail.com> >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> Aisha >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six >> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith >> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair >> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing >> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to >> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the >> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless >> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and >> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. >> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and >> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and >> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came >> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that >> time I was a girl of nine years of age. >> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 >> >> >> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Goyim tolol >>> >>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch >>> >>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk >>> >>> isinya total fitnahan. >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: itemabu2 <itema...@gmail.com> >>> To: proletar <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM >>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha >>> when >>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >>> >>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt >>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn >>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt >>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi dan >>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. >>> >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model." >>> >>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn anak >>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg >>> benar, benar2 bejad. >>> >>> >>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html >>> >>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >>> and had sex with her when she was nine >>> >>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the truth >>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that >>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is >>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to >>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous >>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is simply >>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that >>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. >>> >>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make >>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and >>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. >>> >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to >>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet >>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and >>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks to >>> all who sent this in): >>> >>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi, >>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: >>> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we are >>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while >>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the first >>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering >>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old >>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely a >>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be the >>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl >>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the >>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies >>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married >>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other >>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have legislated >>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be >>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was >>> nine. >>> >>> Interviewer: When she was six... >>> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. >>> >>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a >>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, which >>> is permitted by Islamic law. >>> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are two >>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and he >>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the >>> marriage is obviously valid. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for >>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not have >>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry his >>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she >>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? Who says all men >>> are ferocious wolves? >>> >>> Yeah! >>> Posted by Robert on June 25, 2008 8:47 AM | 42 Comments >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Post message: prole...@egroups.com >>> Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com >>> Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com >>> List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com >>> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Post message: prole...@egroups.com >> Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com >> Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com >> List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com >> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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