PAREWA PAREWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:         Emang bener-bener idiot lu 
Fiq ...
  Lu bilang "kagak ade yg luar biasa dengan membakar roti dgn taik sampi yang 
dikeringin?"
Kaga ade akalnye lu. Membakar roti dgn taik sampi aje udah persoalan besar, nah 
apalagi ni diperentah oleh tuhan ucok gondrong. 
  Gua bilangin (tapi lu jangan bilang siapa-siapa ya), kalau perentah itu lu 
amalin, lalu lu sampaikan ke orang-orang di kampung gua ....biar BBM lagi 
melambung tingggi ni ye, lu tetap aja pulang bonyok ...
   
  Di India lu bilang? kalo disono lain Fiq, taik sampi di sono percis kayak 
kayu bakar, jadi ya ngga ada persoalan ...ampe kesel gua ..
   
  Emang ade-ade aje tuh ye kerjaannye si yesus entu ...segale roti disuruh 
bakar ame taik lembu....
   
  Pantes aje Die berfirman: "Gua datang bawa pedang dan peperangan" 
   
  Lha urusan taik lembu aja bisa bikin kisruh koq di milis ini.  Si jusfiq edan 
bilang, ah di "India aje orang pake taik lembu koq".  
   
  Si item dekil abu bilang "kalo dikeringin dulu mah ganapa-napa ...udahan 
ilang bakteri-bakterinya ...anak bini guwa doyan banget ngudapin taik lembu 
yang udah dikeringin...
  
Jusfiq Hadjar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
  
    PAREWA PAREWA yang dungu kayak anjing dan tukang fitnah dan
    juara maki-maki itu kali ini unjuk kedunguan: 

    Dia tidak ada yang luar biasa dengan membakar roti dengan taik
    sampi yang dikeringkan. 

    Di India, hingga sekarang taik sampi yang dikeringkan tetap
    dipakai untuk membakar jagung atau roti atau untuk memasak... ...
    


On 30 Nov 2005, at 17:15, PAREWA PAREWA wrote:

> Tuh lu dengerin tu ...
>    
>   sipemdun yang kristen pintaran dikit aja bisa ngomong dogma 
>   kristen tu tolol dan ngga masuk akal ...
>    
>   tambahan lagi menurut die, profesor theology kristen aja pasti 
>   kalah debat ama bocah cacingan mengenai ajaran kristen  
>   karena ngga masuk akal .....
>    
>   Apalagi lu yang kelasnya TK theology kristen ..
>    
>   Lu bayangin bocah cacingan diajak debat ajaran kristen ama profesor 
>   theology, bisa dipastiin yang menang itu bocah cacingan ... 
>    
>   Kalo gua sih gampang aja ngebayanginnya: si professor nih bacain 
>   tuh ayat tentang taik lembu buat bakarin roti ...si bocah cacingan bukan
>   nya mendebat si professor ...sebaliknya cuman melongo doang ....
>   sambil mikir: menjelang 2006 masih ada yang bakar roti ama taik lembu ..
>   mak gua yang miskin dikampung ngga gitu-gitu amat ...
>    
>   Kebayang ngga ...
> 
> pemerhatidunia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>   
> Jesus tidak mengajarkan agama kristen spt yg kita kenal sekarang. Ajaran 
> kristen sudah mengeras d
an mem batu dalam dogma2 tolol yg 
> tidak masuk akal itu. 
> 
> Aku bilang dogma susunan Paulus dan para bapak gereja itu tolol, buktinya 
> profesor theology krist
en pun akan KALAH berdebat dengan 
> anak kecil, karena penjelasannya TIDAK AKAN dimengerti oleh anak itu, yg 
> hanya mengandalkan logik
a sederhana. 
> 
> pemdun
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Mia Sabrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> >   1. Tidak ada dalil dalam Alkitab bahwa Yesus lahir tgl. 25 
> Desember, tetapi peringatan tersebut berasal dari festival bangsa 
> Burmalia untuk memperingati inkarnasinya Dewa Matahari ke bumi dalam 
> wujud manusia yang kemudian mati disalib sebagai seorang kristus 
> untuk menebus dosa-dosa manusia. Peringatan ini oleh bangsa Burmalia 
> diidentikkan dengan diri 'Esau yang kemudian disebut mereka dengan 
> Yesus.
> >    
> >   2. Kristen adalah agama baru yang diciptakan oleh kelompok 
> Paulus. Yesus dan 12 Rasul serta pengikut-pengikutnya adalah beragama 
> Yahudi.
> >    
> >   3. Yesus tak pernah mengatakan dirinya adalah Allah, tetapi Yesus 
> mengakui dirinya dalah seorang Nabi. Bahkan menurut Yesus, hanya ada 
> satu-satunya Allah yang benar yaitu hanya Bapa. Yesus sendiri 
> mengakui Bapa sebagai Allah-nya. Para sahabat (12 rasul) dan umat 
> Yesus mengakui Yesus sebagai seorang Nabi. Adapun syahadat Kristen 
> yang disebut sebagai Syahadat Para Rasul itu hanyalah judulnya saja, 
> sebab syahadat tersebut bukan syahadat 12 rasul sahabat Yesus, tetapi 
> syahadat tersebut sebenarnya adalah bersumber dari syahadat yang 
> dikarang oleh Athanasius yang kemudian oleh Gereja diberi judul 
> Syahadat Para Rasul. Judul tersebut telah membuat umat Kristen 
> tertipu mentah-mentah oleh Gereja sejak 1800 tahun lalu. Syahadat 
> yang diakui oleh Yesus adalah dengan mengakui bahwa Bapa satu-satunya 
> Allah yang benar dan Yesus adalah rasul-Nya.
> >    
> >   4. Menurut pengakuan Yesus sebagaimana tercatat dalam injil-injil 
> kanonik, Yesus sama sekali tidak mewahyukan Alkitab, tetapi Yesus 
> adalah penerima dan penyampai wahyu. Yesus sendiri mengakui bahwa 
> segala firman yang diucapkannya adalah didengarnya dari Allah, 
> kemudian Allah memerintahkan Yesus untuk mengucapkan (mengabarkan) 
> firman-firman tersebut kepada umat manusia. Yesus juga sama sekali 
> tidak memberikan jaminan bahwa firman-firman yang telah 
> disampaikannya itu akan terpelihara, melainkan Yesus justeru 
> menubuatkan bahwa ajaran yang telah disampaikannya itu akan disusupi 
> oleh ajaran-ajaran sesat (perumpamaan ilalang di antara gandum).
> >    
> >   5. Yesus beserta para sahabat dan umat beliau beribadat sesuai 
> peribadatan Yahudi di sinagoga, sama sekali tidak membuat perubahan, 
> hanya ada perbedaan persepsi antara Yesus dengan orang Yahudi tentang 
> implementasi kasih dan prioritasnya. Peribadatan pada hari Minggu 
> adalah ibadat bangsa pagan (Sun-day = Hari Dewa Matahari).
> >    
> >   6. Semua gambar tentang Yesus adalah REKAYASA. Bahkan masing-
> masing etnis memiliki versi gambar Yesus yang sesuai dengan etnis 
> masing-masing. Yang terkenal adalah Yesus versi Eropa yang asalnya 
> dari Itali. Ada Yesus Afrika, Yesus Negro, Yesus Cina, Yesus Jepang, 
> Yesus India, Yesus Syiria, Yesus Yahudi, bahkan ada Yesus-Maria 
> Muntilan. Orang Kristen Indonesia bersikukuh percaya dan mengimani 
> bahwa Yesus Eropa itulah rupa Tuhan mereka. Kondisi umat Kristen ini 
> nggak bedanya dengan kondisi umat penyembah berhala yang selalu 
> membuat gambar dan patung-patung tuhan mereka.
> > 
> > 
> > pemerhatidunia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bulan depan adalah 
> bulan Natal. 
> > 
> > Apakah aku membela Natal?? MASIH MENDINGAN ADA HARI RAYA YG 
> > MENGHORMATI KELAHIRAN JESUS, daripada tidak sama sekali. Tidak 
> peduli 
> > Natal bulan Desember itu asalnya dari tradisi Mithras-Persia kuno 
> > untuk dewa Matahari, tetapi itu masih jauh lebih baik daripada 
> tidak 
> > merayakan kelahiran Jesus sama sekali. Atau lebih payah lagi, 
> > menganiaya orang yg merayakan Jesus. 
> > 
> > Hormatilah Jesus dengan semua tradisi manusia yg ada. 
> > 
> > Itu esensinya. tradisi bisa berubah. Konsep tentang Tuhan saja bisa 
> > berubah, apalagi detil suatu tradisi. Azahari itu konsepnya ttg 
> Tuhan 
> > dan caranya beda dengan aliran Islam yg lain. Ada banyak konsep ttg 
> > Tuhan di muka bumi ini, sebab tergantung KECERDASAN tiap manusia. 
> > KAPASITAS OTAK TIDAK BISA DIPAKSAKAN. Monyet dan orang primitip 
> tidak 
> > bisa diajari advanced concept ttg agama dan Tuhan. Orang modern yg 
> > cerdas bisa. Itupun berbagai pemahaman, dari yg ekstrim sampai yg 
> > tidak.   
> > 
> > Semua tradisi agama bisa diubah, diberi makna yg lebih baik dan 
> maju. 
> > 
> > KAPAN DAN BAGAIMANA JESUS DILAHIRKAN ?? 
> > 
> > Aku punya referensi tambahan dari sumber non kristen atau islam.  
> > 
> > menurut kitab The Urantia Book, Jesus lahir tgl 21 Agustus 7 SM 
> siang 
> > hari. 
> > 
> > http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper122.html  
> > 
> > 8. THE BIRTH OF JESUS - P.1351
> > P.1351 - §5 All that night Mary was restless so that neither of 
> them 
> > slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well 
> in 
> > evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind 
> > ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a 
> male 
> > child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in 
> the 
> > clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible 
> contingency, 
> > and laid in a near-by manger.
> > P.1351 - §6 In just the same manner as all babies before that day 
> and 
> > since have come into the world, the promised child was born; and on 
> > the eighth day, according to the Jewish practice, he was 
> circumcised 
> > and formally named Joshua (Jesus).  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > lengkapnya .. lengkap betulan ya, sistematis... 
> > 
> > 
> > PAPER 122 - BIRTH AND INFANCY OF JESUS - P.1344
> > 
> > P.1344 - §1 It will hardly be possible fully to explain the many 
> > reasons which led to the selection of Palestine as the land for 
> > Michael's bestowal, and especially as to just why the family of 
> > Joseph and Mary should have been chosen as the immediate setting 
> for 
> > the appearance of this Son of God on Urantia.
> > P.1344 - §2 After a study of the special report on the status of 
> > segregated worlds prepared by the Melchizedeks, in counsel with 
> > Gabriel, Michael finally chose Urantia as the planet whereon to 
> enact 
> > his final bestowal. Subsequent to this decision Gabriel made a 
> > personal visit to Urantia, and, as a result of his study of human 
> > groups and his survey of the spiritual, intellectual, racial, and 
> > geographic features of the world and its peoples, he decided that 
> the 
> > Hebrews possessed those relative advantages which warranted their 
> > selection as the bestowal race. Upon Michael's approval of this 
> > decision, Gabriel appointed and dispatched to Urantia the Family 
> > Commission of Twelve--selected from among the higher orders of 
> > universe personalities--which was intrusted with the task of making 
> > an investigation of Jewish family life. When this commission ended 
> > its labors, Gabriel was present on Urantia and received the report 
> > nominating three prospective unions as being, in the opinion of the 
> > commission, equally favorable as bestowal families for Michael's 
> > projected incarnation.
> > P.1344 - §3 From the three couples nominated, Gabriel made the 
> > personal choice of Joseph and Mary, subsequently making his 
> personal 
> > appearance to Mary, at which time he imparted to her the glad 
> tidings 
> > that she had been selected to become the earth mother of the 
> bestowal 
> > child.
> > 1. JOSEPH AND MARY - P.1344
> > P.1344 - §4 Joseph, the human father of Jesus (Joshua ben Joseph), 
> > was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, albeit he carried many non-Jewish 
> racial 
> > strains which had been added to his ancestral tree from time to 
> time 
> > by the female lines of his progenitors. The ancestry of the father 
> of 
> > Jesus went back to the days of Abraham and through this venerable 
> > patriarch to the earlier lines of inheritance leading to the 
> > Sumerians and Nodites and, through the southern tribes of the 
> ancient 
> > blue man, to Andon and Fonta. David and Solomon were not in the 
> > direct line of Joseph's ancestry, neither did Joseph's lineage go 
> > directly back to Adam. Joseph's immediate ancestors were mechanics--
> > builders, carpenters, masons, and smiths. Joseph himself was a 
> > carpenter and later a contractor. His family belonged to a long and 
> > illustrious line of the nobility of the common people, accentuated 
> > ever and anon by the appearance of unusual individuals who had 
> > distinguished themselves in connection with the evolution of 
> religion 
> > on Urantia.
> > P.1345 - §1 Mary, the earth mother of Jesus, was a descendant of a 
> > long line of unique ancestors embracing many of the most remarkable 
> > women in the racial history of Urantia. Although Mary was an 
> average 
> > woman of her day and generation, possessing a fairly normal 
> > temperament, she reckoned among her ancestors such well-known women 
> > as Annon, Tamar, Ruth, Bathsheba, Ansie, Cloa, Eve, Enta, and 
> Ratta. 
> > No Jewish woman of that day had a more illustrious lineage of 
> common 
> > progenitors or one extending back to more auspicious beginnings. 
> > Mary's ancestry, like Joseph's, was characterized by the 
> predominance 
> > of strong but average individuals, relieved now and then by 
> numerous 
> > outstanding personalities in the march of civilization and the 
> > progressive evolution of religion. Racially considered, it is 
> hardly 
> > proper to regard Mary as a Jewess. In culture and belief she was a 
> > Jew, but in hereditary endowment she was more a composite of 
> Syrian, 
> > Hittite, Phoenician, Greek, and Egyptian stocks, her racial 
> > inheritance being more general than that of Joseph.
> > P.1345 - §2 Of all couples living in Palestine at about the time of 
> > Michael's projected bestowal, Joseph and Mary possessed the most 
> > ideal combination of widespread racial connections and superior 
> > average of personality endowments. It was the plan of Michael to 
> > appear on earth as an average man, that the common people might 
> > understand him and receive him; wherefore Gabriel selected just 
> such 
> > persons as Joseph and Mary to become the bestowal parents.
> > 
> > 2. GABRIEL APPEARS TO ELIZABETH - P.1345
> > P.1345 - §3 Jesus' lifework on Urantia was really begun by John the 
> > Baptist. Zacharias, John's father, belonged to the Jewish 
> priesthood, 
> > while his mother, Elizabeth, was a member of the more prosperous 
> > branch of the same large family group to which Mary the mother of 
> > Jesus also belonged. Zacharias and Elizabeth, though they had been 
> > married many years, were childless.
> > 
> > P.1345 - §4 It was late in the month of June, 8 B.C., about three 
> > months after the marriage of Joseph and Mary, that Gabriel appeared 
> > to Elizabeth at noontide one day, just as he later made his 
> presence 
> > known to Mary. Said Gabriel:
> > P.1345 - §5 "While your husband, Zacharias, stands before the altar 
> > in Jerusalem, and while the assembled people pray for the coming of 
> a 
> > deliverer, I, Gabriel, have come to announce that you will shortly 
> > bear a son who shall be the forerunner of this divine teacher, and 
> > you shall call your son John. He will grow up dedicated to the Lord 
> > your God, and when he has come to full years, he will gladden your 
> > heart because he will turn many souls to God, and he will also 
> > proclaim the coming of the soul-healer of your people and the 
> spirit-
> > liberator of all mankind. Your kinswoman Mary shall be the mother 
> of 
> > this child of promise, and I will also appear to her."
> > P.1345 - §6 This vision greatly frightened Elizabeth. After 
> Gabriel's 
> > departure she turned this experience over in her mind, long 
> pondering 
> > the sayings of the majestic visitor, but did not speak of the 
> > revelation to anyone save her husband until her subsequent visit 
> with 
> > Mary in early February of the following year.
> > 
> > P.1345 - §7 For five months, however, Elizabeth withheld her secret 
> > even from her husband. Upon her disclosure of the story of 
> Gabriel's 
> > visit, Zacharias was very skeptical and for weeks doubted the 
> entire 
> > experience, only consenting halfheartedly to believe in Gabriel's 
> > visit to his wife when he could no longer question that she was 
> > expectant with child. Zacharias was very much perplexed regarding 
> > P.1346 - §0 the prospective motherhood of Elizabeth, but he did not 
> > doubt the integrity of his wife, notwithstanding his own advanced 
> > age. It was not until about six weeks before John's birth that 
> > Zacharias, as the result of an impressive dream, became fully 
> > convinced that Elizabeth was to become the mother of a son of 
> > destiny, one who was to prepare the way for the coming of the 
> Messiah.
> > P.1346 - §1 Gabriel appeared to Mary about the middle of November, 
> 8 
> > B.C., while she was at work in her Nazareth home. Later on, after 
> > Mary knew without doubt that she was to become a mother, she 
> > persuaded Joseph to let her journey to the City of Judah, four 
> miles 
> > west of Jerusalem, in the hills, to visit Elizabeth. Gabriel had 
> > informed each of these mothers-to-be of his appearance to the 
> other. 
> > Naturally they were anxious to get together, compare experiences, 
> and 
> > talk over the probable futures of their sons. Mary remained with 
> her 
> > distant cousin for three weeks. Elizabeth did much to strengthen 
> > Mary's faith in the vision of Gabriel, so that she returned home 
> more 
> > fully dedicated to the call to mother the child of destiny whom she 
> > was so soon to present to the world as a helpless babe, an average 
> > and normal infant of the realm.
> > 
> > 
> > P.1346 - §2 John was born in the City of Judah, March 25, 7 B.C. 
> > Zacharias and Elizabeth rejoiced greatly in the realization that a 
> > son had come to them as Gabriel had promised, and when on the 
> eighth 
> > day they presented the child for circumcision, they formally 
> > christened him John, as they had been directed aforetime. Already 
> had 
> > a nephew of Zacharias departed for Nazareth, carrying the message 
> of 
> > Elizabeth to Mary proclaiming that a son had been born to her and 
> > that his name was to be John.
> > P.1346 - §3 From his earliest infancy John was judiciously 
> impressed 
> > by his parents with the idea that he was to grow up to become a 
> > spiritual leader and religious teacher. And the soil of John's 
> heart 
> > was ever responsive to the sowing of such suggestive seeds. Even as 
> a 
> > child he was found frequently at the temple during the seasons of 
> his 
> > father's service, and he was tremendously impressed with the 
> > significance of all that he saw.
> > 3. GABRIEL'S ANNOUNCEMENT TO MARY - P.1346
> > P.1346 - §4 One evening about sundown, before Joseph had returned 
> > home, Gabriel appeared to Mary by the side of a low stone table 
> and, 
> > after she had recovered her composure, said: "I come at the bidding 
> > of one who is my Master and whom you shall love and nurture. To 
> you, 
> > Mary, I bring glad tidings when I announce that the conception 
> within 
> > you is ordained by heaven, and that in due time you will become the 
> > mother of a son; you shall call him Joshua, and he shall inaugurate 
> > the kingdom of heaven on earth and among men. Speak not of this 
> > matter save to Joseph and to Elizabeth, your kinswoman, to whom I 
> > have also appeared, and who shall presently also bear a son, whose 
> > name shall be John, and who will prepare the way for the message of 
> > deliverance which your son shall proclaim to men with great power 
> and 
> > deep conviction. And doubt not my word, Mary, for this home has 
> been 
> > chosen as the mortal habitat of the child of destiny. My 
> benediction 
> > rests upon you, the power of the Most Highs will strengthen you, 
> and 
> > the Lord of all the earth shall overshadow you."
> > 
> > 
> > P.1346 - §5 Mary pondered this visitation secretly in her heart for 
> > many weeks until of a certainty she knew she was with child, before 
> > she dared to disclose these unusual
> > P.1347 - §0 events to her husband. When Joseph heard all about 
> this, 
> > although he had great confidence in Mary, he was much troubled and 
> > could not sleep for many nights. At first Joseph had doubts about 
> the 
> > Gabriel visitation. Then when he became well-nigh persuaded that 
> Mary 
> > had really heard the voice and beheld the form of the divine 
> > messenger, he was torn in mind as he pondered how such things could 
> > be. How could the offspring of human beings be a child of divine 
> > destiny? Never could Joseph reconcile these conflicting ideas 
> until, 
> > after several weeks of thought, both he and Mary reached the 
> > conclusion that they had been chosen to become the parents of the 
> > Messiah, though it had hardly been the Jewish concept that the 
> > expected deliverer was to be of divine nature. Upon arriving at 
> this 
> > momentous conclusion, Mary hastened to depart for a visit with 
> > Elizabeth.
> > P.1347 - §1 Upon her return, Mary went to visit her parents, 
> Joachim 
> > and Hannah. Her two brothers and two sisters, as well as her 
> parents, 
> > were always very skeptical about the divine mission of Jesus, 
> though, 
> > of course, at this time they knew nothing of the Gabriel 
> visitation. 
> > But Mary did confide to her sister Salome that she thought her son 
> > was destined to become a great teacher.
> > 
> > P.1347 - §2 Gabriel's announcement to Mary was made the day 
> following 
> > the conception of Jesus and was the only event of supernatural 
> > occurrence connected with her entire experience of carrying and 
> > bearing the child of promise.
> > 4. JOSEPH'S DREAM - P.1347
> > P.1347 - §3 Joseph did not become reconciled to the idea that Mary 
> > was to become the mother of an extraordinary child until after he 
> had 
> > experienced a very impressive dream. In this dream a brilliant 
> > celestial messenger appeared to him and, among other things, 
> > said: "Joseph, I appear by command of Him who now reigns on high, 
> and 
> > I am directed to instruct you concerning the son whom Mary shall 
> > bear, and who shall become a great light in the world. In him will 
> be 
> > life, and his life shall become the light of mankind. He shall 
> first 
> > come to his own people, but they will hardly receive him; but to as 
> > many as shall receive him to them will he reveal that they are the 
> > children of God." After this experience Joseph never again wholly 
> > doubted Mary's story of Gabriel's visit and of the promise that the 
> > unborn child was to become a divine messenger to the world.
> > 
> > P.1347 - §4 In all these visitations nothing was said about the 
> house 
> > of David. Nothing was ever intimated about Jesus' becoming 
> > a "deliverer of the Jews," not even that he was to be the long-
> > expected Messiah. Jesus was not such a Messiah as the Jews had 
> > anticipated, but he was the world's deliverer. His mission was to 
> all 
> > races and peoples, not to any one group.
> > P.1347 - §5 Joseph was not of the line of King David. Mary had more 
> > of the Davidic ancestry than Joseph. True, Joseph did go to the 
> City 
> > of David, Bethlehem, to be registered for the Roman census, but 
> that 
> > was because, six generations previously, Joseph's paternal ancestor 
> > of that generation, being an orphan, was adopted by one Zadoc, who 
> > was a direct descendant of David; hence was Joseph also accounted 
> as 
> > of the "house of David."
> > P.1347 - §6 Most of the so-called Messianic prophecies of the Old 
> > Testament were made to apply to Jesus long after his life had been 
> > lived on earth. For centuries the Hebrew prophets had proclaimed 
> the 
> > coming of a deliverer, and these promises had been construed by 
> > successive generations as referring to a new Jewish ruler who would 
> > sit upon the throne of David and, by the reputed miraculous methods 
> > P.1348 - §0 of Moses, proceed to establish the Jews in Palestine as 
> a 
> > powerful nation, free from all foreign domination. Again, many 
> > figurative passages found throughout the Hebrew scriptures were 
> > subsequently misapplied to the life mission of Jesus. Many Old 
> > Testament sayings were so distorted as to appear to fit some 
> episode 
> > of the Master's earth life. Jesus himself onetime publicly denied 
> any 
> > connection with the royal house of David. Even the passage, "a 
> maiden 
> > shall bear a son," was made to read, "a virgin shall bear a son." 
> > This was also true of the many genealogies of both Joseph and Mary 
> > which were constructed subsequent to Michael's career on earth. 
> Many 
> > of these lineages contain much of the Master's ancestry, but on the 
> > whole they are not genuine and may not be depended upon as factual. 
> > The early followers of Jesus all too often succumbed to the 
> > temptation to make all the olden prophetic utterances appear to 
> find 
> > fulfillment in the life of their Lord and Master.
> > 5. JESUS' EARTH PARENTS - P.1348
> > P.1348 - §1 Joseph was a mild-mannered man, extremely 
> conscientious, 
> > and in every way faithful to the religious conventions and 
> practices 
> > of his people. He talked little but thought much. The sorry plight 
> of 
> > the Jewish people caused Joseph much sadness. As a youth, among his 
> > eight brothers and sisters, he had been more cheerful, but in the 
> > earlier years of married life (during Jesus' childhood) he was 
> > subject to periods of mild spiritual discouragement. These 
> > temperamental manifestations were greatly improved just before his 
> > untimely death and after the economic condition of his family had 
> > been enhanced by his advancement from the rank of carpenter to the 
> > role of a prosperous contractor.
> > P.1348 - §2 Mary's temperament was quite opposite to that of her 
> > husband. She was usually cheerful, was very rarely downcast, and 
> > possessed an ever-sunny disposition. Mary indulged in free and 
> > frequent expression of her emotional feelings and was never 
> observed 
> > to be sorrowful until after the sudden death of Joseph. And she had 
> > hardly recovered from this shock when she had thrust upon her the 
> > anxieties and questionings aroused by the extraordinary career of 
> her 
> > eldest son, which was so rapidly unfolding before her astonished 
> > gaze. But throughout all this unusual experience Mary was composed, 
> > courageous, and fairly wise in her relationship with her strange 
> and 
> > little-understood first-born son and his surviving brothers and 
> > sisters.
> > P.1348 - §3 Jesus derived much of his unusual gentleness and 
> > marvelous sympathetic understanding of human nature from his 
> father; 
> > he inherited his gift as a great teacher and his tremendous 
> capacity 
> > for righteous indignation from his mother. In emotional reactions 
> to 
> > his adult-life environment, Jesus was at one time like his father, 
> > meditative and worshipful, sometimes characterized by apparent 
> > sadness; but more often he drove forward in the manner of his 
> > mother's optimistic and determined disposition. All in all, Mary's 
> > temperament tended to dominate the career of the divine Son as he 
> > grew up and swung into the momentous strides of his adult life. In 
> > some particulars Jesus was a blending of his parents' traits; in 
> > other respects he exhibited the traits of one in contrast with 
> those 
> > of the other.
> > P.1348 - §4 From Joseph Jesus secured his strict training in the 
> > usages of the Jewish ceremonials and his unusual acquaintance with 
> > the Hebrew scriptures; from Mary he derived a broader viewpoint of 
> > religious life and a more liberal concept of personal spiritual 
> > freedom.
> > P.1349 - §1 The families of both Joseph and Mary were well educated 
> > for their time. Joseph and Mary were educated far above the average 
> > for their day and station in life. He was a thinker; she was a 
> > planner, expert in adaptation and practical in immediate execution. 
> > Joseph was a black-eyed brunet; Mary, a brown-eyed well-nigh blond 
> > type.
> > P.1349 - §2 Had Joseph lived, he undoubtedly would have become a 
> firm 
> > believer in the divine mission of his eldest son. Mary alternated 
> > between believing and doubting, being greatly influenced by the 
> > position taken by her other children and by her friends and 
> > relatives, but always was she steadied in her final attitude by the 
> > memory of Gabriel's appearance to her immediately after the child 
> was 
> > conceived.
> > P.1349 - §3 Mary was an expert weaver and more than averagely 
> skilled 
> > in most of the household arts of that day; she was a good 
> housekeeper 
> > and a superior homemaker. Both Joseph and Mary were good teachers, 
> > and they saw to it that their children were well versed in the 
> > learning of that day.
> > 
> > P.1349 - §4 When Joseph was a young man, he was employed by Mary's 
> > father in the work of building an addition to his house, and it was 
> > when Mary brought Joseph a cup of water, during a noontime meal, 
> that 
> > the courtship of the pair who were destined to become the parents 
> of 
> > Jesus really began.
> > P.1349 - §5 Joseph and Mary were married, in accordance with Jewish 
> > custom, at Mary's home in the environs of Nazareth when Joseph was 
> > twenty-one years old. This marriage concluded a normal courtship of 
> > almost two years' duration. Shortly thereafter they moved into 
> their 
> > new home in Nazareth, which had been built by Joseph with the 
> > assistance of two of his brothers. The house was located near the 
> > foot of the near-by elevated land which so charmingly overlooked 
> the 
> > surrounding countryside. In this home, especially prepared, these 
> > young and expectant parents had thought to welcome the child of 
> > promise, little realizing that this momentous event of a universe 
> was 
> > to transpire while they would be absent from home in Bethlehem of 
> > Judea.
> > 
> > P.1349 - §6 The larger part of Joseph's family became believers in 
> > the teachings of Jesus, but very few of Mary's people ever believed 
> > in him until after he departed from this world. Joseph leaned more 
> > toward the spiritual concept of the expected Messiah, but Mary and 
> > her family, especially her father, held to the idea of the Messiah 
> as 
> > a temporal deliverer and political ruler. Mary's ancestors had been 
> > prominently identified with the Maccabean activities of the then 
> but 
> > recent times.
> > P.1349 - §7 Joseph held vigorously to the Eastern, or Babylonian, 
> > views of the Jewish religion; Mary leaned strongly toward the more 
> > liberal and broader Western, or Hellenistic, interpretation of the 
> > law and the prophets.
> > 6. THE HOME AT NAZARETH - P.1349
> > P.1349 - §8 The home of Jesus was not far from the high hill in the 
> > northerly part of Nazareth, some distance from the village spring, 
> > which was in the eastern section of the town. Jesus' family dwelt 
> in 
> > the outskirts of the city, and this made it all the easier for him 
> > subsequently to enjoy frequent strolls in the country and to make 
> > trips up to the top of this near-by highland, the highest of all 
> the 
> > hills of southern Galilee save the Mount Tabor range to the east 
> and 
> > the hill of Nain, 
> > P.1350 - §0 which was about the same height. Their home was located 
> a 
> > little to the south and east of the southern promontory of this 
> hill 
> > and about midway between the base of this elevation and the road 
> > leading out of Nazareth toward Cana. Aside from climbing the hill, 
> > Jesus' favorite stroll was to follow a narrow trail winding about 
> the 
> > base of the hill in a northeasterly direction to a point where it 
> > joined the road to Sepphoris.
> > P.1350 - §1 The home of Joseph and Mary was a one-room stone 
> > structure with a flat roof and an adjoining building for housing 
> the 
> > animals. The furniture consisted of a low stone table, earthenware 
> > and stone dishes and pots, a loom, a lampstand, several small 
> stools, 
> > and mats for sleeping on the stone floor. In the back yard, near 
> the 
> > animal annex, was the shelter which covered the oven and the mill 
> for 
> > grinding grain. It required two persons to operate this type of 
> mill, 
> > one to grind and another to feed the grain. As a small boy Jesus 
> > often fed grain to this mill while his mother turned the grinder.
> > P.1350 - §2 In later years, as the family grew in size, they would 
> > all squat about the enlarged stone table to enjoy their meals, 
> > helping themselves from a common dish, or pot, of food. During the 
> > winter, at the evening meal the table would be lighted by a small, 
> > flat clay lamp, which was filled with olive oil. After the birth of 
> > Martha, Joseph built an addition to this house, a large room, which 
> > was used as a carpenter shop during the day and as a sleeping room 
> at 
> > night.
> > 7. THE TRIP TO BETHLEHEM - P.1350
> > P.1350 - §3 In the month of March, 8 B.C. (the month Joseph and 
> Mary 
> > were married), Caesar Augustus decreed that all inhabitants of the 
> > Roman Empire should be numbered, that a census should be made which 
> > could be used for effecting better taxation. The Jews had always 
> been 
> > greatly prejudiced against any attempt to "number the people," and 
> > this, in connection with the serious domestic difficulties of 
> Herod, 
> > King of Judea, had conspired to cause the postponement of the 
> taking 
> > of this census in the Jewish kingdom for one year. Throughout all 
> the 
> > Roman Empire this census was registered in the year 8 B.C., except 
> in 
> > the Palestinian kingdom of Herod, where it was taken in 7 B.C., one 
> > year later.
> > P.1350 - §4 It was not necessary that Mary should go to Bethlehem 
> for 
> > enrollment--Joseph was authorized to register for his family--but 
> > Mary, being an adventurous and aggressive person, insisted on 
> > accompanying him. She feared being left alone lest the child be 
> born 
> > while Joseph was away, and again, Bethlehem being not far from the 
> > City of Judah, Mary foresaw a possible pleasurable visit with her 
> > kinswoman Elizabeth.
> > P.1350 - §5 Joseph virtually forbade Mary to accompany him, but it 
> > was of no avail; when the food was packed for the trip of three or 
> > four days, she prepared double rations and made ready for the 
> > journey. But before they actually set forth, Joseph was reconciled 
> to 
> > Mary's going along, and they cheerfully departed from Nazareth at 
> the 
> > break of day.
> > P.1350 - §6 Joseph and Mary were poor, and since they had only one 
> > beast of burden, Mary, being large with child, rode on the animal 
> > with the provisions while Joseph walked, leading the beast. The 
> > building and furnishing of a home had been a great drain on Joseph 
> > since he had also to contribute to the support of his parents, as 
> his 
> > father had been recently disabled. And so this Jewish couple went 
> > forth from their humble home early on the morning of August 18, 7 
> > B.C., on their journey to Bethlehem.
> > P.1351 - §1 Their first day of travel carried them around the 
> > foothills of Mount Gilboa, where they camped for the night by the 
> > river Jordan and engaged in many speculations as to what sort of a 
> > son would be born to them, Joseph adhering to the concept of a 
> > spiritual teacher and Mary holding to the idea of a Jewish Messiah, 
> a 
> > deliverer of the Hebrew nation.
> > P.1351 - §2 Bright and early the morning of August 19, Joseph and 
> > Mary were again on their way. They partook of their noontide meal 
> at 
> > the foot of Mount Sartaba, overlooking the Jordan valley, and 
> > journeyed on, making Jericho for the night, where they stopped at 
> an 
> > inn on the highway in the outskirts of the city. Following the 
> > evening meal and after much discussion concerning the 
> oppressiveness 
> > of Roman rule, Herod, the census enrollment, and the comparative 
> > influence of Jerusalem and Alexandria as centers of Jewish learning 
> > and culture, the Nazareth travelers retired for the night's rest. 
> > Early in the morning of August 20 they resumed their journey, 
> > reaching Jerusalem before noon, visiting the temple, and going on 
> to 
> > their destination, arriving at Bethlehem in midafternoon.
> > P.1351 - §3 The inn was overcrowded, and Joseph accordingly sought 
> > lodgings with distant relatives, but every room in Bethlehem was 
> > filled to overflowing. On returning to the courtyard of the inn, he 
> > was informed that the caravan stables, hewn out of the side of the 
> > rock and situated just below the inn, had been cleared of animals 
> and 
> > cleaned up for the reception of lodgers. Leaving the donkey in the 
> > courtyard, Joseph shouldered their bags of clothing and provisions 
> > and with Mary descended the stone steps to their lodgings below. 
> They 
> > found themselves located in what had been a grain storage room to 
> the 
> > front of the stalls and mangers. Tent curtains had been hung, and 
> > they counted themselves fortunate to have such comfortable quarters.
> > P.1351 - §4 Joseph had thought to go out at once and enroll, but 
> Mary 
> > was weary; she was considerably distressed and besought him to 
> remain 
> > by her side, which he did.
> > 8. THE BIRTH OF JESUS - P.1351
> > P.1351 - §5 All that night Mary was restless so that neither of 
> them 
> > slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well 
> in 
> > evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind 
> > ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a 
> male 
> > child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in 
> the 
> > clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible 
> contingency, 
> > and laid in a near-by manger.
> > P.1351 - §6 In just the same manner as all babies before that day 
> and 
> > since have come into the world, the promised child was born; and on 
> > the eighth day, according to the Jewish practice, he was 
> circumcised 
> > and formally named Joshua (Jesus).
> > P.1351 - §7 The next day after the birth of Jesus, Joseph made his 
> > enrollment. Meeting a man they had talked with two nights 
> previously 
> > at Jericho, Joseph was taken by him to a well-to-do friend who had 
> a 
> > room at the inn, and who said he would gladly exchange quarters 
> with 
> > the Nazareth couple. That afternoon they moved up to the inn, where 
> > they lived for almost three weeks until they found lodgings in the 
> > home of a distant relative of Joseph.
> > P.1351 - §8 The second day after the birth of Jesus, Mary sent word 
> > to Elizabeth that her child had come and received word in return 
> > inviting Joseph up to Jerusalem to talk over all their affairs with 
> > Zacharias. The following week Joseph went to Jerusalem to confer 
> with 
> > Zacharias. Both Zacharias and Elizabeth had become possessed with 
> the 
> > sincere conviction that Jesus was indeed to become the Jewish 
> > P.1352 - §0 deliverer, the Messiah, and that their son John was to 
> be 
> > his chief of aides, his right-hand man of destiny. And since Mary 
> > held these same ideas, it was not difficult to prevail upon Joseph 
> to 
> > remain in Bethlehem, the City of David, so that Jesus might grow up 
> > to become the successor of David on the throne of all Israel. 
> > Accordingly, they remained in Bethlehem more than a year, Joseph 
> > meantime working some at his carpenter's trade.
> > 
> > 
> > P.1352 - §1 At the noontide birth of Jesus the seraphim of Urantia, 
> > assembled under their directors, did sing anthems of glory over the 
> > Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not heard by 
> > human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures came to pay 
> > homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of the arrival of 
> > certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from Jerusalem by 
> > Zacharias.
> > P.1352 - §2 These priests from Mesopotamia had been told sometime 
> > before by a strange religious teacher of their country that he had 
> > had a dream in which he was informed that "the light of life" was 
> > about to appear on earth as a babe and among the Jews. And thither 
> > went these three teachers looking for this "light of life." After 
> > many weeks of futile search in Jerusalem, they were about to return 
> > to Ur when Zacharias met them and disclosed his belief that Jesus 
> was 
> > the object of their quest and sent them on to Bethlehem, where they 
> > found the babe and left their gifts with Mary, his earth mother. 
> The 
> > babe was almost three weeks old at the time of their visit.
> > P.1352 - §3 These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem. 
> > The beautiful legend of the star of Bethlehem originated in this 
> way: 
> > Jesus was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there 
> > occurred an extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the 
> > constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic fact 
> that 
> > similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and December 5 of the 
> > same year. Upon the basis of these extraordinary but wholly natural 
> > events the well-meaning zealots of the succeeding generation 
> > constructed the appealing legend of the star of Bethlehem and the 
> > adoring Magi led thereby to the manger, where they beheld and 
> > worshiped the newborn babe. Oriental and near-Oriental minds 
> delight 
> > in fairy stories, and they are continually spinning such beautiful 
> > myths about the lives of their religious leaders and political 
> > heroes. In the absence of printing, when most human knowledge was 
> > passed by word of mouth from one generation to another, it was very 
> > easy for myths to become traditions and for traditions eventually 
> to 
> > become accepted as facts.
> > 9. THE PRESENTATION IN THE TEMPLE - P.1352
> > P.1352 - §4 Moses had taught the Jews that every first-born son 
> > belonged to the Lord, and that, in lieu of his sacrifice as was the 
> > custom among the heathen nations, such a son might live provided 
> his 
> > parents would redeem him by the payment of five shekels to any 
> > authorized priest. There was also a Mosaic ordinance which directed 
> > that a mother, after the passing of a certain period of time, 
> should 
> > present herself (or have someone make the proper sacrifice for her) 
> > at the temple for purification. It was customary to perform both of 
> > these ceremonies at the same time. Accordingly, Joseph and Mary 
> went 
> > up to the temple at Jerusalem in person to present Jesus to the 
> > priests and effect his redemption and also to make the proper 
> > sacrifice to insure Mary's ceremonial purification from the alleged 
> > uncleanness of childbirth.
> > P.1353 - §1 There lingered constantly about the courts of the 
> temple 
> > two remarkable characters, Simeon a singer and Anna a poetess. 
> Simeon 
> > was a Judean, but Anna was a Galilean. This couple were frequently 
> in 
> > each other's company, and both were intimates of the priest 
> > Zacharias, who had confided the secret of John and Jesus to them. 
> > Both Simeon and Anna longed for the coming of the Messiah, and 
> their 
> > confidence in Zacharias led them to believe that Jesus was the 
> > expected deliverer of the Jewish people.
> > P.1353 - §2 Zacharias knew the day Joseph and Mary were expected to 
> > appear at the temple with Jesus, and he had prearranged with Simeon 
> > and Anna to indicate, by the salute of his upraised hand, which one 
> > in the procession of first-born children was Jesus.
> > P.1353 - §3 For this occasion Anna had written a poem which Simeon 
> > proceeded to sing, much to the astonishment of Joseph, Mary, and 
> all 
> > who were assembled in the temple courts. And this was their hymn of 
> > the redemption of the first-born son:
> > 
> > P.1353 - §4 Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel,
> > P.1353 - §5 For he has visited us and wrought redemption for his 
> > people;
> > P.1353 - §6 He has raised up a horn of salvation for all of us
> > P.1353 - §7 In the house of his servant David.
> > P.1353 - §8 Even as he spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets--
> > P.1353 - §9 Salvation from our enemies and from the hand of all who 
> > hate us;
> > P.1353 - §10 To show mercy to our fathers, and remember his holy 
> >                               covenant--
> > P.1353 - §11 The oath which he swore to Abraham our father,
> > P.1353 - §12 To grant us that we, being delivered out of the hand 
> of 
> > our                         enemies, 
> > P.1353 - §13 Should serve him without fear,
> > P.1353 - §14 In holiness and righteousness before him all our days.
> > P.1353 - §15 Yes, and you, child of promise, shall be called the 
> > prophet of                         the Most High;
> > P.1353 - §16 For you shall go before the face of the Lord to 
> > establish his                         kingdom;
> > P.1353 - §17 To give knowledge of salvation to his people
> > P.1353 - §18 In the remission of their sins.
> > P.1353 - §19 Rejoice in the tender mercy of our God because the 
> > dayspring                         from on high has now visited 
> > us
> > P.1353 - §20 To shine upon those who sit in darkness and the shadow 
> > of                         death;
> > P.1353 - §21 To guide our feet into ways of peace.
> > P.1353 - §22 And now let your servant depart in peace, O Lord, 
> > according to                   your word,
> > P.1353 - §23 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
> > P.1353 - §24 Which you have prepared before the face of all peoples;
> > P.1353 - §25 A light for even the unveiling of the gentiles
> > P.1353 - §26 And the glory of your people Israel.
> > 
> > P.1353 - §27 On the way back to Bethlehem, Joseph and Mary were 
> > silent--confused and overawed. Mary was much disturbed by the 
> > farewell salutation of Anna, the aged poetess, and Joseph was not 
> in 
> > harmony with this premature effort to make Jesus out to be the 
> > expected Messiah of the Jewish people.
> > 10. HEROD ACTS - P.1353
> > P.1353 - §28 But the watchers for Herod were not inactive. When 
> they 
> > reported to him the visit of the priests of Ur to Bethlehem, Herod 
> > summoned these Chaldeans to appear 
> > P.1354 - §0 before him. He inquired diligently of these wise men 
> > about the new "king of the Jews," but they gave him little 
> > satisfaction, explaining that the babe had been born of a woman who 
> > had come down to Bethlehem with her husband for the census 
> > enrollment. Herod, not being satisfied with this answer, sent them 
> > forth with a purse and directed that they should find the child so 
> > that he too might come and worship him, since they had declared 
> that 
> > his kingdom was to be spiritual, not temporal. But when the wise 
> men 
> > did not return, Herod grew suspicious. As he turned these things 
> over 
> > in his mind, his informers returned and made full report of the 
> > recent occurrences in the temple, bringing him a copy of parts of 
> the 
> > Simeon song which had been sung at the redemption ceremonies of 
> > Jesus. But they had failed to follow Joseph and Mary, and Herod was 
> > very angry with them when they could not tell him whither the pair 
> > had taken the babe. He then dispatched searchers to locate Joseph 
> and 
> > Mary. Knowing Herod pursued the Nazareth family, Zacharias and 
> > Elizabeth remained away from Bethlehem. The boy baby was secreted 
> > with Joseph's relatives.
> > P.1354 - §1 Joseph was afraid to seek work, and their small savings 
> > were rapidly disappearing. Even at the time of the purification 
> > ceremonies at the temple, Joseph deemed himself sufficiently poor 
> to 
> > warrant his offering for Mary two young pigeons as Moses had 
> directed 
> > for the purification of mothers among the poor.
> > P.1354 - §2 When, after more than a year of searching, Herod's 
> spies 
> > had not located Jesus, and because of the suspicion that the babe 
> was 
> > still concealed in Bethlehem, he prepared an order directing that a 
> > systematic search be made of every house in Bethlehem, and that all 
> > boy babies under two years of age should be killed. In this manner 
> > Herod hoped to make sure that this child who was to become "king of 
> > the Jews" would be destroyed. And thus perished in one day sixteen 
> > boy babies in Bethlehem of Judea. But intrigue and murder, even in 
> > his own immediate family, were common occurrences at the court of 
> > Herod.
> > P.1354 - §3 The massacre of these infants took place about the 
> middle 
> > of October, 6 B.C., when Jesus was a little over one year of age. 
> But 
> > there were believers in the coming Messiah even among Herod's court 
> > attachés, and one of these, learning of the order to slaughter the 
> > Bethlehem boy babies, communicated with Zacharias, who in turn 
> > dispatched a messenger to Joseph; and the night before the massacre 
> > Joseph and Mary departed from Bethlehem with the babe for 
> Alexandria 
> > in Egypt. In order to avoid attracting attention, they journeyed 
> > alone to Egypt with Jesus. They went to Alexandria on funds 
> provided 
> > by Zacharias, and there Joseph worked at his trade while Mary and 
> > Jesus lodged with well-to-do relatives of Joseph's family. They 
> > sojourned in Alexandria two full years, not returning to Bethlehem 
> > until after the death of Herod.
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