mau sampe kapan ya islam itu berenti ngibul ?... gila juga tu menteri agama... tapi ngga heran sih, tu menteri kan agamanya islam, emang biasa ngibul....
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:30 AM, itemabu2 <itema...@gmail.com> wrote: > Orang Islam itu emang bajingan keparat, hasil dr ajaran bejad dan konyol. > > > > http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/indonesias-religious-affairs-minister-christians-bring-discrimination-upon-themselves.html > > Indonesia's Religious Affairs Minister: Christians bring > discrimination upon themselves > > He said that "they have politicized an issue that is purely > administrative in nature." But it is only an administrative problem at > all because Sharia forbids dhimmi Christians to build new churches: > "The subject peoples ... are forbidden to build new churches." ('Umdat > al-Salik, o11.5). Islamic law also forbids Christians to repair old > churches. > > "Minister: Christians bring discrimination on themselves," by > Margareth S. Aritonang for The Jakarta Post, April 2 (thanks to > Ronny): > > Religious Affairs Minister Suryadharma Ali blamed Christians for > the closure of some churches in the country, saying that they have > politicized an issue that is purely administrative in nature. > > Suryadharma said that Christians in the country are not the only > ones who had problems getting permits to build places of worship, but > they got more attention simply because they talked to the press more. > > Maybe they aren't the only ones. Other non-Muslims, as well as > Ahmadis, also have trouble building new houses of worship, because of > the same Sharia prohibition. But that prohibition doesn't apply to > Muslims. That's why Suryadharma's subsequent claim is dubious in the > extreme: > > The controversial minister said that Muslims in several regions > where they are members of a minority, such as in Bali, North Sulawesi, > and East Nusa Tenggara, have met the same challenges when trying to > get permits to build mosques. > > But they dont talk to the press. They also dont protest or > perform prayers in front of the Presidential Palace. The requirement > to obtain such a permit is only administrative, there is no need to > turn it into a political issue, Suryadharma said. > > Suryadharma was referring to members of the Indonesian Christian > Church (GKI) Yasmin from Bogor, West Java, and the Batak Christian > Protestant Church (HKBP) Filadelfia of Bekasi, also in West Java, who > have been conducting their Sunday services in front of the > Presidential Palace in the past two years because local governments > have sealed off their churches due to building permit disputes. > > HKBP Filadelfia has been involved in a building permit dispute > with local residents at Jejalen Jaya village for years as the locals > refused to allow a church to be built in their neighborhood. > > Representatives of the HKBP church said that they had secured > permits from local government to build their church in the village, > but, in 2011, the Bandung State Administrative Court in West Java > overturned a ruling by the Bekasi administration which had given the > go-ahead for the construction of the church. > > The locals have prevented HKBP members from conducting Sunday > services at the church since then. > > The Bogor administration has denied a request for a building > permit for GKI Yasmin, despite a ruling by the Supreme Court that > upheld the rights of the congregation to open a place of worship in > the area.... > > Posted by Robert on April 3, 2013 10:52 AM > > > ------------------------------------ > > Post message: prole...@egroups.com > Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com > Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com > List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com > Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
