mendingan nanya2 atuh Plik..
ketimbang maki maki..
ato melecehkan perempuan..
atau bikin2 pembenaran..

lebih cakep lagi mah..
jangan dungu..
geto..

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Nanya lagi..
> 
> Nanya lagi...
> 
> Psikopat berat Dimas Muryanto yang dungu kayak babi itu pada hal tahu apa 
> yang saya tulis sejak bertahun-tahun tentang khurafah najis al-Mushaf yang 
> dijadikannnya sebagai kitab suci....  
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "dimaswur" <dimaswur@> wrote:
> >
> > Jadi 3 pertanyaanku tetep tak bisa kau jawab !
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Dimas Muryanto tidak bisa membantah bahwa seperti Abbas Amein juga dia 
> > > bisa berbahasa Minangkabau.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "dimaswur" <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kadi tetep ora iso jawap
> > > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kayak Abbas Amien psikopat berat tukang fitnah Dimas Muryanto bisa 
> > > > > berbahasa Minangkabau...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dan kayak Abbas Amien dia demen jadi cheer leader.. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "dimaswur" <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! iyolah bana uni.Tapi inyonyo rancak ... rancak 
> > > > > > dilabu. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > nanya ke siapa Dimas??
> > > > > > > ke Jusfiq??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > he3x..
> > > > > > > inyo alah pakak..
> > > > > > > utak nyo kosong melompong..
> > > > > > > obsesi nyo ka arab primitif..
> > > > > > > mambuek si Jusfiq ikut jadi primitif..
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Uplik sekarang menjadi primitif sejati..
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "dimaswur" <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kalau kamu Jujur, coba dah kau jawab dua pertanyaanku terdahulu 
> > > > > > > > ? Sekarang tambah lagi nanyanya, apaakah arab primitif 
> > > > > > > > menghayal atau menyontek ? coba bisa gak kau jawab !
> > > > > > > > Jangan kau hanya cuap2 saja ksekedar nunjukin kedunguanmu ? 
> > > > > > > > persis kau ini kalau laagi cuap2 seperti nonok bebek dientotin 
> > > > > > > > bonobo tuh jelas sekali !
> > > > > > > > Ayo jawab !
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" 
> > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Psikopat berat Dimas Muryanto itu jelas betul-betul sinting...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Ngomong asal ngaco seperti dibawah ini, sekedar cuap-cuap 
> > > > > > > > > kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, buat 
> > > > > > > > > pamer otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi 
> > > > > > > > > menjijikkan dikacau ajaran agama najis Islam yang bukan saja 
> > > > > > > > > dungu, tapi juga buas, kejam, keji, zalim ganas lagi biadab.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "dimaswur" <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karena si Jusfiq Bukan Pedanda sudah  jauh meninggalkan 
> > > > > > > > > > Kejujuran Intelektual. Bahkan kini sudah meninggalkan RASA 
> > > > > > > > > > MALU sama sekali !
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > orang yang waras harusnya tau
> > > > > > > > > > > kalau gue nanya si anu, bukan elu
> > > > > > > > > > > ya yang jawab mestinya si anu, bukan si panu seperti elu
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > elu tuh aneh, 
> > > > > > > > > > > begitu giliran gue nanya elu
> > > > > > > > > > > eh langsung deh jurus straw man fallacy dikeluarin
> > > > > > > > > > > pertanyaan gue, elu pelintir sehingga elu ngga mesti 
> > > > > > > > > > > menjawab pertanyaan itu,
> > > > > > > > > > > yang elu lakukan mirip kokokan ayam idiot, itu ke itu aja 
> > > > > > > > > > > sambil memforward
> > > > > > > > > > > segala artikel soal homosexual
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > bloon...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > >  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:28 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes (Hasan Basri yang 
> > > > > > > > > > > memang nggak begitu waras...
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Komentar psikopat berat Hasan Basri yang otaknya sudah 
> > > > > > > > > > > betul-betul rusak dan jadi busuk, nista  lagi 
> > > > > > > > > > > menjijikkan...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Dia sudah hadir di mailing list ini sejak semula dan 
> > > > > > > > > > > belum juga dia tahu bahwa tiap peserta berhak untuk 
> > > > > > > > > > > mengomentari tiap pôsting yang dikirim kesini.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar 
> > > > > > > > > > > <proletar4@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > pik, emang nama elu nub ya?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > >  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:05 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes (Hasan Basri 
> > > > > > > > > > > > yang memang nggak begitu waras...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Habe tukang kibulin istri yang - juga - memang nggak 
> > > > > > > > > > > > begitu waras bilang, tanpa argumen: "perkawinan tetap 
> > > > > > > > > > > > aja secara ilmiah dilakukan antara laki laki dan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > perempuan"
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <proletar4@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > merejek " pernikahan sejenis " bukan berarti anti gay
> > > > > > > > > > > > > soal life style dan kecenderungan sex mereka, itu sih 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > urusan mereka sendiri
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > perkawinan tetap aja secara ilmiah dilakukan antara 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > laki laki dan perempuan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > gimana menurut elu nub?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: Nub <nubtheologian@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:14 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes Might Be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hidden Homosexuals
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalo orang batak bilang:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong rejection may be interpreted as affirmation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Bukan Pedanda 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Permanent Address: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A new analysis of implicit bias and explicit sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation statements may help to explain the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Jeanna Bryner and LiveScience  |  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, April 10, 2012 | 40 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Image: Wikimedia Commons/thaths 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertisement
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homophobes should consider a little 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > self-reflection, suggests a new 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > study finding those individuals who are most 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hostile toward gays and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same-sex desires, albeit 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > undercover ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > authoritarian parents, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > particularly those with homophobic views as well, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the researchers added.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "This study shows that if you are feeling that kind 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Why?'" co-author Richard Ryan, a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > professor of psychology at the University of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rochester, said in a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a call to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > self-reflection."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The research, published in the April 2012 issue of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can ultimately have dire consequences. [The 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Sometimes people are threatened by gays and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lesbians because they are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > protest too much,'" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that sometimes those who would oppress others have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been oppressed themselves, and we can have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some compassion for them too, they may be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unaccepting of others because 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > they cannot be accepting of themselves."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan cautioned, however, that this link is only one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > source of anti-gay sentiments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hidden homosexuality
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In four studies, the researchers looked at the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discrepancies between 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what people say about their sexual orientation and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > their implicit sexual orientation based on a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reaction-time test. The studies involved college 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > students from Germany and the United States.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the implicit measure, students had to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > categorize words and pictures 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > flashed onto a computer screen into "gay" or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "straight" groups. Words 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > included "gay," "straight," "homosexual" and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "heterosexual," while the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pictures showed straight and gay couples. Before 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > each trial, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > participants were primed with the word "me" or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "others" flashed 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > momentarily onto a computer screen. The researchers 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said quicker 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reaction time for "me" and "gay," and a slower 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > association of "me" with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "straight" would indicate said an implicit gay 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation. [Why Gay Parents May Be the Best 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parents]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In another experiment, the researchers measured 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > implicit sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation by having participants choose to browse 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same-sex or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > opposite-sex photos on a computer screen.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questionnaires also teased out the parenting style 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the participants were exposed to, with students 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asked how much they agreed or disagreed with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statements such as: "I felt controlled and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressured in certain ways;" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and "I felt free to be who I am." To gauge 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > homophobia in a household, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > students responded to items such as, "It would be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > upsetting for my mom 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to find out she was alone with a lesbian" or "My 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dad avoids gay men 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whenever possible."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Participants indicated their own level of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > homophobia, both overt and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > implicit; in word-completion tasks, students wrote 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > down the first three 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > words that came to mind when prompted with some of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the words' letters. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Students were primed at some point with the word 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "gay" to see how that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > impacted the amount of aggressive words used.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Controlling parents
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In all of the studies, participants who reported 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > supportive and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > accepting parents were more in touch with their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > implicit sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation, meaning it tended to jibe with their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > outward sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation. Students who indicated they came from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > authoritarian homes 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > showed the biggest discrepancy between the two 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > measures of sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In a predominately heterosexual society, 'know 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thyself' can be a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge for many gay individuals," lead author 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Netta Weinstein, a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lecturer at the University of Essex in the United 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kingdom,said in a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement. "But in controlling and homophobic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > homes, embracing a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > minority sexual orientation can be terrifying." [5 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ways to Foster Self-Compassion in Your Child]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those participants who reported their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > heterosexuality despite having 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to show hostility 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toward gay individuals, including self-reported 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anti-gay attitudes, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as supporting 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > harsher punishments for homosexuals.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The research may help to explain the underpinnings 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > researchers note. People in denial about their own 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sexual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > orientation, perhaps a denial fostered by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > authoritarian and homophobic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > parents, may feel a threat from other gay and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lesbian individuals. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lashing out may ultimately be an indicator of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > person's own internal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict with sexual orientation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This inner conflict can be seen in some 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > high-profile cases in which 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anti-gay public figures are caught engaging in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same-sex acts, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > researchers say. For instance, evangelical preacher 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anti-gay-marriage advocate Ted Haggard was caught 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a gay sex scandal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 2006. And in 2010, prominent anti-gay activist 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and co-founder of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conservative Family Research Council George Rekers 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was reportedly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spotted in 2010 with a male escort rented from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rentboy.com. According to news reports, the escort 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirmed Rekers is gay.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We laugh at or make fun of such blatant hypocrisy, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but in a real way, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these people may often themselves be victims of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > repression and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience exaggerated feelings of threat," Ryan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said. "Homophobia is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not a laughing matter. It can sometimes have tragic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consequences," as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was the case in the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a gay man.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     * 5 Myths About Gay People Debunked
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     * Understanding the 10 Most Destructive Human 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Behaviors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     * 10 Scientific Tips For Raising Happy Kids
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