Jadi di Islam itu ada azas:utang pati mbayar pati,utang sakit mbayar sakit.Hukum qisas kan gitu.gigi dibalas gigi. La hartanya Nabi dan sahabat itu kan jatuh ketangan wong Kafir Makkah yg dikomandani Abu Sofyan.Akirnya caravan Abu Sofyan yg membawa dagangan dicegat sama anak buah Nabi.Habis itu pecahlah perang Badar dimana muslim ada 324 orang la Kafir Makkah 1000 lebih,yo menang Muslim wong akidahnya paling bagus yo Allah mbantu.Sahabat do heran pedangnya belum kena lawan tapi leher lawan telah putus. Jadi itu peringatan bagi pejihad2 jaman sekarang kok pada berani jihad itu opo akidahnya sudah setara dg akidah sahabat dulu?kalau belum itu very very dangerous,maksudnya siap2lah kalah.
Paulus anak wedus. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Jadi nabi najis itu bangsat perampok... > > Dia bukan minta barangnya untuk dikembalikan. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > Goblok bener sih orang ini,caravan itu miliknya Quraysh jadi satu kelompok > > dg Makkah,padahal Nabi dan sahabat meninggalkan hartanya di Makkah krn > > ketika hijrah dilarang membawa hartanya.Jadi Nabi menghadang caravan tadi > > untuk pengganti hartanya tertinggal di Makkah. > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > Nabi sendiri bilang bhw harta di karavan itu adalah harta orang Quraish. > > > > > > Jadi lu bilang nabi lu itu ngibul yah. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/21 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > La hiya Quraysh itu kan Makkah dimana harta Nabi dan sahabat ketika > > > > hijrah > > > > gak boleh dibawa,la harta muslim yg dirampas Quraysh tsb yg kudu diambil > > > > lagi oleh Nabi dll. > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ngibul tuh, nabi sendiri bilang bhw harta di karavan itu adalah harta > > > > orang > > > > > Quraish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/20 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Menjelang PD-2 kapal2 dagang yg lewat Atlantikpun ditenggelamkan > > > > > > German.Lalu Nabi nyegat caravan orang Kafir Makkah sebagai balasan > > > > harta > > > > > > sahanat dan Nabi yg ketika hijrah gak boleh dibawa harus ditinggal > > > > > > di > > > > > > Makkah. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagian menurut Konvensi Jenewa merampok harta musuh dalam perang > > > > > > > itu > > > > > > terlarang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... udah dikasih bukti nabi lu itu hartanya banyak waktu > > > > mampus, > > > > > > ga > > > > > > > > bs bantah, kepaksa kaing2 ngalihin perhatian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi ngerampok pedagang lewat atau orang yg lg ngangon ternak > > > > > > > > itu > > > > lu > > > > > > anggap > > > > > > > > perang, shg hasil rampokannya jadi halal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... emang ga salah, itulah konsep Islam, tiap non muslim > > > > adalah > > > > > > > > musuh, maka ngerampok tiap non muslim adalah perang dan hartanya > > > > jadi > > > > > > milik > > > > > > > > penyerangnya, ceweknya bisa diperkosa krn udah jadi milik tangan > > > > kanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/20 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sudahlah negara manapun pemenang perang berhak apa saja sebab > > > > > > > > > yg > > > > > > kalah > > > > > > > > > perang disuruh nandatangani perjanjian,Amerika diistananya > > > > > > > > > Sadham > > > > > > nemu emas > > > > > > > > > seniali 500 juta USD lalu nemu bank note senilai 500 juta > > > > juga.Gak > > > > > > ada yg > > > > > > > > > protes sebab hukum pemenang perang memang begitu.Jepang dulu > > > > malah > > > > > > rakyat > > > > > > > > > suruh nyerahkan emas,radio,hasil bumi semua dia bawa ke Jepang > > > > utk > > > > > > biaya > > > > > > > > > perang.Lalu jugan ianfunya dikentu. > > > > > > > > > La Yesus jadi kalahan kok lalu kamu kira baik,dia itu kalah > > > > perang yo > > > > > > > > > dibantai dia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... lu minta bukti si keparat itu banyak hartanya > > > > > > > > > > waktu > > > > > > mampus, > > > > > > > > > udah > > > > > > > > > > gua kasih. Sekarang lu kaing2 ga terima. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eh goblok, kapan hadis itu nongol? Kan bisa aja hadis itu > > > > nongol > > > > > > sebelum > > > > > > > > > si > > > > > > > > > > keparat berhasil ngerampoknya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu tau ga, 10 x usaha pertama ngerampok (kalo ga salah) yg > > > > > > dilakukan si > > > > > > > > > > keparat itu gagal total. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... lu tau ga apa hasil Khaibar? 100% hasil Khaibar > > > > > > > > > > itu > > > > > > adalah > > > > > > > > > milik > > > > > > > > > > si keparat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gimana tanah Fadak dan hasil Khaibar itu jadi milik si > > > > > > > > > > keparat? > > > > > > Dari > > > > > > > > > > ngerampok dan malak! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/20 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ada hadis yg diriwayatkan Aisyah bhw Rasul belum pernah > > > > selama 3 > > > > > > hari > > > > > > > > > > > berturut perutnya kenyang terus gak pernah,lalu Umar > > > > mendengar > > > > > > ketika > > > > > > > > > Rasul > > > > > > > > > > > sujud kok kedengaran suara kletek kletek lalu > > > > ditanyak,rupanya > > > > > > perut > > > > > > > > > Rasul > > > > > > > > > > > disabuki batu biar bisa menahan lapar.Nah apalah artinya > > > > tanah > > > > > > Fadak > > > > > > > > > kalau > > > > > > > > > > > jarang ada hari2 kenyang.Cobak kenapa hadis2 yg begini kok > > > > kamu > > > > > > hindari > > > > > > > > > > > padahal ada,cobalah yg fair sedikit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu bandingin nabi lu dgn Djoko Susilo? Hehehe... emang > > > > banyak > > > > > > > > > > > persamaannya > > > > > > > > > > > > tuh antara nabi lu dg Djoko Susilo, sama2 bajingan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nih gua kasih bukti nabi lu itu hartanya banyak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Volume 8, Book 80, Number 718 :* *Narrated by 'Aisha* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fatima and Al 'Abbas came to Abu Bakr, seeking their > > > > > > > > > > > > share > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > > property of Allah's Apostle and at that time, they were > > > > asking > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > land at Fadak and their share from Khaibar. Abu Bakr > > > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > to > > > > > > them, " > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > heard from Allah's Apostle saying, 'Our property cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > inherited, and > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever we leave is to be spent in charity, but the > > > > family of > > > > > > > > > Muhammad > > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > > take their provisions from this property." Abu Bakr > > > > > > > > > > > > added, > > > > "By > > > > > > > > > Allah, I > > > > > > > > > > > > will not leave the procedure I saw Allah's Apostle > > > > following > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > lifetime concerning this property." Therefore Fatima > > > > > > > > > > > > left > > > > Abu > > > > > > Bakr > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > > > > not speak to him till she died. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuh, keluarga nabi rebutan harta si bajingan yg baru > > > > mampus, > > > > > > antara > > > > > > > > > lain > > > > > > > > > > > > tanah Fadak dan hasil dr Khaibar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu tau ga apa itu Fadak dan apa yg dihasilkan dr > > > > > > > > > > > > Khaibar? > > > > Kl > > > > > > ga, lu > > > > > > > > > boleh > > > > > > > > > > > > nyembah ke al ustadz spy diajarin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/20 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yg saya minta itu barang bukti phisik,kalau perampok > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg > > > > telah > > > > > > > > > menang > > > > > > > > > > > > > perang dimana mana kok kamu gak bisa menyebutkan > > > > > > > > > > > > > barang > > > > > > bukti yg > > > > > > > > > > > > > ditinggalkan.Kayak KPK itu baru Djoko Susilo saja > > > > > > > > > > > > > barang > > > > > > buktinya > > > > > > > > > > > > > seabrek.Kalau Eropah itu yg telah njajah dimana mana > > > > seperti > > > > > > istana > > > > > > > > > > > > > Versailes itu banyaak.Hayoh yg profesional jangan asal > > > > tuduh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu ini tukang ngibul doang. Lu pernah baca hadis dan > > > > sirat > > > > > > ga? > > > > > > > > > Atau > > > > > > > > > > > baca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quran 9:28-29 misalnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nih baca yg bener, apa ini bukannya gerombolan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rampok > > > > dan > > > > > > tuakng > > > > > > > > > > > merkosa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Volume 3, Book 46, Number 717 :* *Narrated by Ibn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aun* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > letter > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without > > > > > > warning while > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heedless and their cattle were being watered at the > > > > places > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting men were killed and their women and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children > > > > were > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nafi > > > > said > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Ibn > > > > > > > > > > > 'Umar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had told him the above narration and that Ibn 'Umar > > > > was in > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > army. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Volume 3, Book 46, Number 718 :* *Narrated by Ibn > > > > > > Muhairiz* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interruptus. > > > > Abu > > > > > > Said > > > > > > > > > > > said, "We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli > > > > > > Al-Mustaliq > > > > > > > > > and we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long > > > > > > separation > > > > > > > > > > > from our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice > > > > coitus > > > > > > > > > > > interruptus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > said, "It > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has) > > > > > > destined to > > > > > > > > > > > exist, > > > > > > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > come, > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > existence." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/19 Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuduhan ITEM bhw Nabi saya rampok susah dibuktikan > > > > soale > > > > > > ketika > > > > > > > > > > > saya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kekampungnya Nabi(Madinah),bayangan saya sebagai > > > > pemenang > > > > > > > > > perang > > > > > > > > > > > dimana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pastilah ada peninggalan istana Nabi yg setara dg > > > > istana > > > > > > > > > > > > > Versailes.Rupanya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rumah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nabi dulu ukurannya hanya seluas 7x6 m(RSS) ya yg > > > > > > sekarang > > > > > > > > > > > digunakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebagai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > makamnya Nabi,Abu Bakar dan Umar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalu kalau motivasi perang hanya sekedar Harta > > > > rampasan > > > > > > yo wong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ansor(Madinah) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gak akan mau diajak perang sebab dalam Perang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hunain > > > > tdk > > > > > > ada > > > > > > > > > > > ghonimah > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dikasihkan kpd wong Ansor,tapi malah dikasihkan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wong > > > > > > Makkah yg > > > > > > > > > baru > > > > > > > > > > > > > saja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mualaf.Yg kebagian banyak Abu Sofyan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalu Nabi ketika sakit mau meninggal dia nemuin 7 > > > > dirham > > > > > > > > > > > > > disakunya,itupun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bakar disuruh cepet2 mensodaqahkan dinar tsb sebab > > > > apa > > > > > > jawaban > > > > > > > > > > > beliau > > > > > > > > > > > > > kpd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kalau masih ada duwit disakunya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nabi bilang:donya/harta ini dimata Allah amat > > > > > > hina,makane wong > > > > > > > > > > > Kafir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dikasih,kalau donya itu mulia maka sepeserpun wong > > > > Kafir > > > > > > gak > > > > > > > > > akan > > > > > > > > > > > > > dikasih. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <itemabu2@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pejihad2 fi sabililah ini ngerampok, persis spt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg > > > > > > dilakukan > > > > > > > > > oleh > > > > > > > > > > > > > nabi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mereka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt para bajingan > > > > > > keparat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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