On 6 May 06, at 17:22, andik_yudiarto wrote:

> Tidak ada yang palsu dalam al-qur'an,

    Ngibul. 

    al-Mushaf itu TIDAK berbukti berisi wahyu Allah... 


> banyak yang hafal meski tidak
> pernah menghafal (dengan pengalaman rohaniah). 


    Ini omongan yang nggak punya bukti... 

    Artinya ngibul lagi... 


> Itulah caranya Allah
> menetapkan janjinya yang tidak merubah al-qur'an sampai kiamat.
> 


    Ngibul lagi... 

    Al-Mushaf itu berubah-ubah isinya.... 

    Agar jelas: 

    al-Mushaf yang beredar di Indonesia adalah al-Mushaf versi
    Kairo, yang abad yang lalu dinyatakan oleh orang Mesir sebagai
    versi standard.

    Agar jelas, yang memutuskan versi Kairo itu sebagai Al-Mushaf
    standard adalah orang Mesir dan bukan Allah. 

    Dan orang Islam Indonesia yang memang dungu-dungu kayak babi
    seperti andik_yudiarto ini mau saja menurutkan keputusan orang
    Mesir itu. 

    Tapi versi itu bukan satu-satunya yang ada. 

    Sekurangnya ada versi Magrib, yang beredar di Afrika Utara selain
    Mesir. 

    Lalu ada beberapa al-Mushaf yang ditemukan di Sanna tahun
    1972... 

    Agar jeals: andik_yudiarto ini adalahtukangkibul... 

    Pendusta. 


> Bandingkan dengan Injil, adakah orang yang hafal 100% ??? Jika tidak
> berarti wajar jika banyak perubahan dan anda tidak tahu, karena Anda
> tidak mengetahui kitab sebenarnya dan tidak menghafalnya dalam bahasa
> aslinya.
> 
> Lihatlah kebenaran yang ada pada film itu, bukti sudah banyak, anda
> sangat naif jika mengatakan tidak reaksi apa-apa. Jangan LUPAKAN
> sejarah TERKENAL "Galileo Galilei" yang dihukum gantung karena
> menyampaikan kebenaran yang hakiki tentang BUMI tetapi bertentangan
> dengan Injil.
> 
> Berkacalah....sebelum menuduh orang, dari sisi sejarah sudah sangat
> jelas, bahwa sejarah kelam kristen jauh lebih banyak dan lebih dasyat
> dari Islam maka dari itu jangan lagi menghubungkan dengan orang
> perorang (Personal) tapi ajaranlah...yang perlu anda perdalam.
> 
> Benarkah, dosa warisan???
> Benarkah Mitos penebusan dosa???
> Benarkah Yesus itu Tuhan??? dll
> 
> Alkitab sendiri MENOLAKNYA...Sehingga penganut Kristen di Indonesia
> hanyalah memegang doktrin-doktrin PAULUS yang tidak berisi apa-apa
> serta hanya mengandung Dusta. Dengan Jujur Paulus mengatakan
> sebenarnya, "Jika karena dustaku nama Tuhan semakin mulia, kenapa aku
> masih disalahkan???
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> --- In islamkristen@yahoogroups.com, item abu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
> Ni orang idiot, emangnya kalo ga setuju dgn filmnya lalu mesti nonton
> film itu? Ngeboikotnya itu kan ga lebih dr ga nonton filmnya. >   > Ga
> ada anjuran buat ngebantai pengarang buku, penerbit, atau produser
> filmnya, ga ada anjuran buat ngerusak bioskop, toko buku dll. Dan juga
> ga bawa-bawa pihak yg ga ada hubungannya sama sekali. >   > Bandingin
> ame masalah tayangan kartun di Denmark, kartunisnya mau dibunuh,
> korannya mau ditutup, gedung kedubesnya dibakar, produk 1 negara
> diboikot, padahal yg ngelakuin itu cuma 1 surat kabar. >   > Atau,
> bandingin ame orang yg cuma bilang ada 2 ayat palsu di Quran. Orang
> Islam sendiri yg bilang, yg jelas-jelas juga tukang jilat pantat si
> bajingan cabul Mo, Rashad Khalifa. Rashad Khalifa yg jadi imam di
> mesjid itu dibantai ame orang Islam juga gara-gara bilang ada 2 ayat
> palsu tsb. >   > Orang Islam itu ga pernah ngaca sama sekali. Soalnya
> ga punya malu sih. >    >    >   > ----- Original Message ----- >
> From: "JustJoiningTheTribe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:
> <islamkristen@yahoogroups.com>; <debat- [EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:55
> PM > Subject: [islamkristen] Oh Boo hoo hoo! Christians Plan Boycott
> of 'Da Vinci Code' >   > > Katanya kalo ada apa2, orang2 kristen bakal
> adem-ayem aja, diserahin > > semuanya ke yesus, soalnya "kemuliaan"
> yesus gak bakalan berkurang meski > > dihina dan diperlakukan tidak
> semestinya. > > > > > > > >  ------------------------------ > > > >
> *Christians Plan Boycott of 'Da Vinci Code'* > > > > by Robert B.
> Bluey > > Posted May 04, 2006 > > > > Christian activists are planning
> a boycott of the soon-to-be- released *Da > > Vinci Code* movie, which
> one influential pro-family group is calling > > "blasphemous." > > > >
> Dr. Ted Baehr, chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission,
> is > > asking Christians to sign a petition  condemning the movie. The
> petition > > accuses Sony Pictures, Imagine Entertainment, director
> Ron Howard and actor > > Tom Hanks of supporting a film that is
> offensive to Christians. > > > > The movie, according to Baehr, is
> "fraught with misconceptions and blatantly > > false claims about the
> Gospel of Jesus Christ, the history of Christianity, > > and the
> Catholic Church." > > > > This isn't the first time Dan Brown's work
> has come under attack from > > Christians. Last week a top official at
> the Vatican asked Catholics to boycott > > the movie. And in
> anticipation of the May 19 movie, David Balsinger has > > produced his
> own film which purports to debunk "Brown's outrageous lies > > about
> Jesus Christ and His Church." > > > > The following is an open letter
> Baehr sent to his followers: > > > > *WE CHOOSE NOT TO SUPPORT
> BLASPHEMY* > > > > *An open letter to Christians and people of good
> will about the upcoming > > film, The Da Vinci Code* > > > > We the
> undersigned are on record that we will not buy movie tickets for the >
> > film, *The Da Vinci Code*. The director Ron Howard has promised he
> is being > > faithful to the bestselling novel as he adapts it to the
> big screen. That > > means the movie will likely be blasphemous, just
> as the book is. > > > > The book is a novel but in telling its story,
> it makes massive claims about > > Jesus Christ -- that He was not
> divine, that He was secretly married, and > > that the "New Testament
> is false propaganda." We recognize that while the > > movie may give
> Christians a good opportunity to talk about faith issues, > > millions
> of people -- not familiar in the least with the Gospels - - could be >
> > spiritually poisoned with "false propaganda" against Christ. This is
> > > especially true of children. > > > > Since every movie ticket
> purchased is a VOTE, saying, "Yes, Hollywood, make > > more movies
> like this!," we choose not to buy a ticket for this movie. We > >
> choose not to support the blasphemy. While recognizing this is an
> issue of > > conscience and that people of good will may differ on how
> to approach the > > film, this is how we choose to act. And we ask
> Christians and all people of > > good will to consider doing likewise.
> > > > > Signed: > > Dr. Ted Baehr > > > >
> *http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14572 > >
> ------------------------------ > > * > > > > 
> ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > > MARLENE VAN DOORN'S
> jusfiq hadjar (66 years old) is a human? we're not sure > > yet.
> There's still no proof - JustJoiningTheTribe > > > >           >
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