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Saya ulang:
"Alasan kenapa Hirsi Ali dianggap ngibul dan kehilangan
kewarganegaraan Belandanya oleh Verdonk adalah karena dia
dikira berdusta ketika memakai nama Ali..
Ternyata dia tidak berdusta, karena menurut kebiasaan di Somali
dia berhak memakai nama Ali...
Yang salah adalah Verdonk.
Dan ini diakuinya."
On 5 Jul 06, at 7:39, justjoiningthetribes wrote:
> Saya kira MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar ini tidak terlalu paham
> dengan penggalan kalimat berita yang tertulis dibawah ini.
>
> "Since admitting to lying in her asylum application"
>
> Apakah menurut anda itu artinya dia dianggap ngibul atau dia
> benar-benar ngibul?
>
> Duh dungunya manusia kafir kristen yang bertabiat nista ini?
>
>
>
>
> --- In islamkristen@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq Hadjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Anjing!
>
> Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjing?
>
> Nah anda itu itu adalah manusia bermental anjing yang suka
> menyalak asal menggongogong.
>
> Alasan kenapa Hirsi Ali dianggap ngibul dan kehilangan
> kewarganegaraan Belandanya oleh Verdonk adalah karena dia dikira
> berdusta ketika memakai nama Ali..
>
> Ternyata dia tidak berdusta, karena menurut kebiasaan di Somali
> dia berhak memakai nama Ali...
>
> Yang salah adalah Verdonk.
>
> Dan ini diakuinya.
>
> Oleh karena Hirsi Ali tetap menjadi warga negara Belanda.
>
>
> On 5 Jul 06, at 11:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > reposting :
> > sekedar mengingatkan members bahwa Jusfig yang udah bolak-balik
> > terjengkang di arena milisti ini tampak memakai jurus baru NGEYEL,
> > sebagaimana ngeyelnya pada sdr JJTT, soal hirsi ali yang ngibul
> > untuk cari suaka di Belanda. postingan dibawah sama sekali tidak
> > membuktikan bahwa hirsi ali TIDAK NGIBUL.. tapi karena ngeyel ya
> > terpaksa diposting untuk menyelamatklan muka...
> >
> > jadi ya makin runyam saja.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jusfiq Hadjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@yahoogroups.com on 06/30/2006
> > 03:19:00 AM
> >
> > Row brings down Dutch government
> >
> > The Dutch government is resigning after losing the support of
> > one of its coalition partners, says Dutch Prime Minister Jan
> > Peter Balkenende.
> >
> > D66, the coalition's smallest member, withdrew its support in a row
> > over Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk.
> >
> > Ms Verdonk had threatened to strip former politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali
> > of her Dutch passport because of false information she gave in 1992.
> >
> > Mr Balkenende said he would tender the government's resignation on
> > Friday.
> >
> > The D66 party pulled its support because Ms Verdonk, known as
> > "Iron Rita" for her tough stance on immigration issues, refused to
> > resign over her treatment of Ms Hirsi Ali.
> >
> > Ms Hirsi Ali, 36, wrote a controversial film about the treatment of
> > women in Islam, which was directed by Theo Van Gogh, who was later
> > murdered by a Muslim extremist.
> >
> > Mr Balkenende's announcement came after two days of debate in
> > the parliament, where Ms Verdonk had done a U-turn on her stance on
> > Ms Hirsi Ali, claiming she had found a legal loophole that would
> > allow the Somali-born woman to stay.
> >
> > The resignation of the government could lead to new elections in
> > October. Story from BBC NEWS:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/5131240.stm
> >
> > Published: 2006/06/29 20:00:57 GMT
> >
> > © BBC MMVI
> >
> > On 17 May 06, at 8:25, justjoiningthetribes wrote:
> >
> > > Terbongkar sudah kedok, seorang murtadin Ayaan Hirsi Ali, yang
> > > selalu mengkritik Islam di Belanda.
> > >
> > > Ternyata dia berbohong untuk bisa mendapatkan asylum di Belanda.
> > >
> > > Dan bagaimana dengan MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn)
> > > yang juga seorang murtadin, apakah kebohongannya akan segera
> > > terbongkar?
> > >
> > > Ini persis sama dengan kasus orang2 non-muslim yang mencoba
> > > mendapatkan asylum di Amerika dengan ngibul tentang pemerkosaan
> > > etnis tionghoa oleh orang2 Islam (yang tidak pernah terbukti),
> > > atau orang2 papua yang ngibul tentang genocide di Papua.
> > >
> > > Kisah hidup Ayaan Hirsi Ali ini sangat mirip dengan MARLENE VAN
> > > DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn), murtad, nyari asylum di negara
> > > Belanda, dan untuk bisa hidup, mereka pun mencaci-maki Islam dan
> > > menjadi pengkritik Islam yang paling keras. Kalau Ayaan melalui
> > > lembaga dan partai, tapi MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar sejauh
> > > ini kayaknya jangkauannya baru internet (milis islamkristen)
> > >
> > > Sebaiknya kita segera memberitahukan pemerintah Belanda, untuk
> > > menyelidiki dokumen2 MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn),
> > > dan aktivitasnya selama ini yang mana biaya hidupnya disupport
> > > oleh Belanda.
> > >
> > > Pemerintah Belanda yang sedang mengkampanyekan integrasi umat
> > > Islam di Belanda itu akan senang sekali, kalau MARLENE VAN DOORN'S
> > > jusfiq hadjar ini diberitahu keberadaannya untuk diselidiki.
> > >
> > > Menarik sekali apa yang dikatakan Rita Verdonk, menteri
> > > keimigrasian Belanda: "Laws and rules are valid for everyone," she
> > > was quoted as saying by the Dutch news agency ANP. "I don't like
> > > lies."
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > MP in immigration row to leave Netherlands
> > >
> > > · Somali-born politician admits lying to get asylum
> > > · Attack on radical Islam fed debate on integration
> > >
> > > Nicholas Watt, European editor
> > > Tuesday May 16, 2006
> > > The Guardian
> > >
> > > Ayaan Hirsi Ali
> > > Leaders of the VVD party - which wants tough immigration
> > > restrictions - have used Ayaan Hirsi Ali's membership to deny
> > > racism claims. Photograph: Fred Ernst/AP
> > >
> > >
> > > A Somali-born Dutch MP who came to symbolise the Netherlands'
> > > troubled relations with Islam is planning to leave her adopted
> > > country and settle in the United States.
> > >
> > > Ayaan Hirsi Ali is expected to announce today that she will resign
> > > as an MP, days after a television programme accused her of lying
> > > in 1992 in order to secure Dutch nationality.
> > >
> > > Ms Hirsi Ali, a fierce critic of radical Islam who lives under
> > > armed guard, wants to pre-empt any move by the Netherlands' tough
> > > immigration minister to strip her of Dutch citizenship.
> > >
> > > Article continues
> > > The government turned on Ms Hirsi Ali after a television
> > > documentary reported that she had secured Dutch citizenship in
> > > 1997 by making up a story that she had fled an arranged marriage
> > > in Somalia. Members of Ms Hirsi Ali's family told the Zembla
> > > television programme last Thursday that they had no knowledge of
> > > an arranged marriage.
> > >
> > > The 30-minute programme also questioned her claims that she fled
> > > wartorn Somalia. It said that she lived in a comfortable family
> > > home in Kenya for 12 years before she sought refugee status in the
> > > Netherlands in 1992.
> > >
> > > Ms Hirsi Ali, 36, whose real name is Hirsi Magan, admitted in the
> > > programme that she lied about her name, age and how she came to
> > > the Netherlands. Rather than travelling directly from Somalia, as
> > > she originally claimed, Ms Hirsi Ali arrived via Kenya and
> > > Germany.
> > >
> > > Over the weekend she dismissed the political furore. "Have they
> > > all gone mad? Yes, I did lie to get asylum in Holland. This is
> > > public knowledge since at least September 2002," she told the
> > > Associated Press.
>
>
>
>
>
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