---------- forwarded message ---------- From: bicaraagama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 28 Apr 2007 19:54 Subject: [debat_antar_agama] Re: Quran yang Bervariasi dan Berbeda-beda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kalau ini memang benar, bukankah lebih baik untuk di ketahui, daripada di tutup2x-i ? http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/060.sbt.html#006.060.201 Narrated Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari: who was one of those who used to write the Divine Revelation: Abu Bakr sent for me after the (heavy) casualties among the warriors (of the battle) of Yamama (where a great number of Qurra' were killed). 'Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said, 'Umar has come to me and said, The people have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be more casualties among the Qurra' (those who know the Qur'an by heart) at other battle-fields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost, unless you collect it. And I am of the opinion that you should collect the Qur'an." Abu Bakr added, "I said to 'Umar, 'How can I do something which Allah's Apostle has not done?' 'Umar said (to me), 'By Allah, it is (really) a good thing.' So 'Umar kept on pressing, trying to persuade me to accept his proposal, till Allah opened my bosom for it and I had the same opinion as 'Umar." (Zaid bin Thabit added:) Umar was sitting with him (Abu Bakr) and was not speaking. me). "You are a wise young man and we do not suspect you (of telling lies or of forgetfulness): and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. Therefore, look for the Qur'an and collect it (in one manuscript). " By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an. I said to both of them, "How dare you do a thing which the Prophet has not done?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is (really) a good thing. So I kept on arguing with him about it till Allah opened my bosom for that which He had opened the bosoms of Abu Bakr and Umar. So I started locating Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leaf-stalks of date palms and from the memories of men (who knew it by heart). I found with Khuzaima two Verses of Surat-at-Tauba which I had not found with anybody else, (and they were)... bukhari aja meriwayatkan orang yg bilang sulitnya ngumpulin quran ... (masih banyak yg lain) berapa banyak orang yg tahu fakta ini ? sebentar lagi, quran beneran cuma ada 1 versi, krn yg lain di hilangkan (di bakar) ... (pernah, market di Mesir, di masukin dng 1 macam quran aja, supaya lebih terstandardisasi, spt yg kita lihat sekarang ini, hampir berhasil) kalau kalian percaya ttg hal yg salah, itu hak kalian ... tapi, untuk membantu melihat hal yg salah, itu juga hak/kewajiban sbg sesama manusia ... tentu aja tanpa memaksa ... apalagi, dng kepercayaan yg gitu kuat (padahal salah), kalian melakukan banyak hal yg merugikan orang lain; misalnya mau penutupan2x rumah ibadah, scr paksa & mencoba menjalankan syairah islam, (pemaksaan, meskipun secara halus) yg akan merugikan posisi agama orang lain. dng melihat kelemahan agama islam, apalagi quran, moga2x tidak terjadi pemaksaan2x, baik scr halus maupun kasar, nyata, maupun sembunyi2x (lewat menekan pemerintah) kalian percaya quran mengandung hal2x yg baik ... ya, silahkan ambil positif-nya, ... jangan yg jelek ... lagian, itu khan bukan tidak asli lagi dari muhammad ... yg kalian klaim sbg nabi ... orang islam ada yg tidak lagi percaya islam ... ya biarin, kagak usah di ancam di bunuh ... islam bukanlah mutlak benar kok ... agama lain mau promosi ... silahkan ... islam mau promosi, silahkan ... bukankah tiap orang masing2x akan di mintai pertanggungan jawab ? inilah alasan saya, kenapa saya di sini ... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ketika aku kuliah di American Studies Graduate Program UGM, salah > seorang professor tamu yang datang dari Michigan (he is a professor > in History), dia juga mengajar di Jurusan Comparative Religion UGM. > Satu kali beliau mengundang kita mahasiswa American Studies untuk > menghadiri kuliahnya di Comparative Religion. Suasana yang ada > adalah persahabatan, padahal para mahasiswa berasal dari agama yang > berbeda-beda, tidak ada saling menjatuhkan agama lain. > Pada hakekatnya orang-orang yang kurang kerjaan seolah-olah > mempelajari agama lain, berusaha mencari kelemahan agama lain > tersebut, adalah orang yang lemah yang tidak mampu memahami ajaran > agama lain itu, menginterpretasikan buku atau bahan bacaan yang > mereka baca sesuka mereka, dan karena semangat yang ada adalah untuk > menghantam agama lain, jadinya tentu saja menghasilkan interpretasi > yang sangat buruk dan sama sekali tidak punya empati. Terlalu > menyibukkan diri mencari-cari kelemahan di tempat lain, sehingga > kelemahan pada diri sendiri pun tak tampak, seperti peribahasa kuman > di seberang mata tampak, gajah di pelupuk mata sama sekali tidak > tampak. > Menyedihkan. > > Salam, > Nana > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
