Ribuan? Ngibul.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadingrh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan jusfiq tidak henti2nya ngarang dan mendustakan temuan lain dari > para ahli .. > ribuan skrip dari abad pertama hijriah padahal sudah terdokumentasi > dengan baik dan tersimpan di museum2 termasuk di prancis > > http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/museum.html > > > Robert Hoyland : > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some > have claimed. > John Burton: > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > Dan Burton bisa teriak-teriak kayak anjing lapar melolong, tapi dia > > bukan ahli paleografi... > > > > Paleograf yang telah melakukan penelitian perkamen dan palimpsest > > Sanna adalah Puin. > > > > Dan dia tahu apa yang dibicarakannnya. > > > > Katanya: kita tidak punya bukti arkeologis bahwa al-Musahf itu disusun > > di zaman Usman. Al-Mushaf itu disusun sesudah Usman. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > please refers to the recent post .. hehehe > > > > > > John Burton: > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Burton bisa saja teriak-teriak. > > > > > > > > Tapi inilah pendapat Puin yang ahli paleography yang meneliti > perkamen > > > > dan palimpsest Sanna: > > > > > > > > " Or aucun de ces Corans "othmaniens" n'a été retrouvé. "On n'a > pas de > > > > preuves archéologiques que le Coran existait dès cette époque", > > > > tranche Gerd Puin, qui situe la mise en forme du Coran "après > Othman". > > > > > > > > Tidak ada bukti arkeologis yang menujukkan bahw al-Mushaf itu telah > > > > ada di zaman Usman. > > > > > > > > Al-Mushaf itu disusun sesudah zaman Usman.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > just wanna help u yg sudah renta, dan males nyari di google ... > > > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Persis gaya stalinis... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > semuanya sudah ada di internet, gak perlu dijelasin lebih > > > lanjut krn > > > > > > > cuman bantuin kamu yg males mencari kebenaran. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mirip gaya propaganda stalin... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ngutip omongan orang tanpa penjelasan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Professor Siaveda > > > > > > > > > Professor of Marine Geology, Japan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I think it seems to me very, very mysterious, almost > > > > > > unbelievable. I > > > > > > > > > really think if what you have said is true, the book is > > > really a > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > remarkable book, I agree." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tejatat Tejasen > > > > > > > > > Chairman of the Department of Anatomy and is the > former Dean > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > faculty of Medicine, University of Chiang Mai, Chiang Mai, > > > > > Thailand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In the last three years, I became interested in the > > Qur'an... > > > > > > From my > > > > > > > > > studies and what I have learned throughout this > > conference, I > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > that everything that has been recorded in the Qur'an > > fourteen > > > > > > hundred > > > > > > > > > years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the > > > > scientific > > > > > > > means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, > > > > > > Muhammad must > > > > > > > > > be a messenger who relayed this truth which was revealed > > > to him > > > > > > as an > > > > > > > > > enlightenment by the one who is eligible creator. This > > creator > > > > > > must be > > > > > > > > > God, or Allah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, > > there is > > > > > no god > > > > > > > > > to worship except Allah (God), Muhammad rasoolu Allah, > > > > Muhammad is > > > > > > > > > Messenger of Allah... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most precious thing I have gained from coming to this > > > > > conference > > > > > > > > > is La ilaha illa Allah, and to have become Muslim." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Maurice Bucaille > > > > > > > > > Born in 1920, former chief of the Surgical Clinic, > > > University of > > > > > > > > > Paris, has for a long time deeply interested in the > > > > > correspondences > > > > > > > > > between the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and modern > > > secular > > > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a study which lasted ten years, Dr. Maurice Bucaille > > > > > addressed > > > > > > > > > the French Academy of Medicine in 1976 concerning the > > > existence > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > Qur'an of certain statements concerning physiology and > > > > > reproduction. > > > > > > > > > His reason for doing that was that : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...our knowledge of these disciplines is such, that it is > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > > > to explain how a text produced at the time of the Qur'an > > could > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > contained ideas that have only been discovered in modern > > > times." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The above observation makes the hypothesis advanced by > > those > > > > > > who see > > > > > > > > > Muhammad as the author of the Qur'an untenable. How could > > > a man, > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > being illiterate, become the most important author, in > > > terms of > > > > > > > > > literary merits, in the whole of Arabic literature? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could he then pronounce truths of a scientific nature > > > > that no > > > > > > > > > other human-being could possibly have developed at that > > time, > > > > > > and all > > > > > > > > > this without once making the slightest error in his > > > > > pronouncement on > > > > > > > > > the subject?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! 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