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--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Sekali lagi: bandingkan dengan adab Nasrani. > > Pemahaman berbagai gereja itu berbeda-beda tapi mereka tidak berperang karena > itu. > > Adab Nasrani jauh lebih cerdas dan lebih manusiawi dari adab Islam orang. > > Saya bilang dan saya ulang, agama taik anjing Islam itu sungguh tidak layak > dianut manusia dan hanya pantas untuk anjing liar dan binatang buas. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > Alasan mayoritas "merasa" adalah tidak cukup, harus ada inti alasannya > > yang membuat Ahmadiah dinyatakan menyeleweng? Bagaimana dengan masalah > > antara Shia dan Suni dimana mereka saling bunuh-bunuhan, membom mesjid > > tanpa mengabaikan umat lagi salat dalam mesjid tsb. Di Indonesia pun telah > > ada suara yang menyatakan bhawa Shia aliran yang tidak betul dan patut > > dilarang seperti Ahmadiah. > > > > Siapa yang berhak menyatakan kebenaran sesuatu aliran apabila aliran-aliran > > tsb memakai kitab yang sama? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Abbas > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:27 AM > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > > Darfur > > > > > > > > Itu kelompok mayoritas merasa bahwa ahmadiyyah bukan Islam ! nah kalau > > demikian makin banyak penyeleweng Islam bukan ?! > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > Hehehe.... orang Ahmadiyah dibantai tuh oleh sesama muslim. Apa orang > > Islam > > > tukang bantainya ga ngikutin jalan yg benar? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 4:10:52 PM > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' > > in Darfur > > > > > > > > > Bukan ! Mereka berbunuh karena perang antar kelompok ! > > > seperti DULU Khatolik lawan Protestan ! > > > Maka Tuhan pun menurunkan azabnya kepada mereka yang saling berperang > > antar umat > > > Islam ! Mana mereka maju bukan !? Karena apa ? Karena mereka sudah > > tidak > > > mengikuti lagi jalan yang BENAR ! > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Beda orang Islam berbunuhan, seperti antara syiah dan sunni, atau > > membunuh > > > >seperti yang dilakukan olen al-Qaeda dll. adalah bahwa mereka membunuh > > karena > > > >alasan teologis, sesuai dengan pemahaman ajaran mereka. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bunuh membunuh bukan hanya di Islam saja Bung ! Sudah begitu, kalau > > dia > > > >BENAR2 Uslamnya ; maka pembunuhan akan dijaga benar karena itu > > termasuk DOSA > > > >BESAR ! kalaupun dilakukan mungkin saja dia sudah keluar Islamnya !!! > > > > > Jadi memang Islam rahmat lil alamiin. Orangnya !??? Pasti saja > > banyak juga > > > >yang maling TV dlsb. Tapi bukan karena Islamnya ; tetapi kehabisan > > duit karena > > > >sudah dirampok ORANG KAPIR !!!! > > > > > Orang Kapir anak buah DAWKINS itulah penyebab segala kerusuhan > > didunia ini ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimana-mana orang Islam itu demen membunuh.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan masih ada orang Islam yang sanggup bilang agama Islam itu > > rahmat > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Africa > > > > > > Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur > > > > > > Dozens of fighters reported dead in west, as monitoring group > > says > > > >satellite > > > > > > images show north's army massing in south. > > > > > > Last Modified: 19 Jun 2011 23:57 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fighters from the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) in Darfur, in the > > west of > > > >Sudan, > > > > > > have said that the north's Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) has attacked > > them with > > > >war > > > > > > planes and military vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The SLA said the attacks resulted in 27 deaths, 40 injuries and > > the > > > >displacement > > > > > > of thousands of people. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reports come as satellite images appeared to show the north > > Sudanese > > > > > > military massing in the southern border state of Kordofan, a > > monitoring > > > >group > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, on the ill-defined border with the south, is > > among > > > >several > > > > > > flashpoints as Sudan's south prepares to secede on July 9, a move > > analysts > > > >say > > > > > > could embolden fighters in other parts of the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > The SAF confirmed it had clashed with fighters in Darfur on > > Sunday in the > > > > > > mountainous Jabel Marra region, but said it had not used aircraft > > and the > > > > > > fighting had not displaced civilians. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ibrahim al-Helwu, a spokesperson for SLA, the said the violence > > began when > > > > > > government troops advanced from the Darfur settlements of Kas and > > Nyala. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said 27 people, including 19 civilians, were killed and about > > 40 > > > wounded > > > > > > after an assault by land troops as well as Antonov and MiG > > aircraft. > > > > > > > > > > > > "From the morning, the government started to attack," Helwu said, > > speaking > > > >by > > > > > > phone from Paris. "More than 10,000 civilians are displaced from > > this > > > >area". > > > > > > > > > > > > The northern army said the fighting in the Jabel Marra region had > > caused > > > an > > > > > > unconfirmed number of casualties on both sides and that no > > civilians had > > > >been > > > > > > harmed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Violence in Darfur, where mostly non-Arab fighters are fighting > > government > > > > > > troops and largely Arab armed groups, has fallen from its peak in > > 2003 and > > > >2004, > > > > > > but a surge in attacks since December has forced tens of > > thousands to > > > flee. > > > > > > > > > > > > The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for > > Omar > > > >Hassan > > > > > > al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on charges of masterminding > > genocide and > > > >war > > > > > > crimes in Darfur. > > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum refuses to recognise the court. The UN says as many as > > 300,000 > > > >people > > > > > > have died during the conflict in Darfur. Khartoum puts the death > > toll at > > > >10,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thousands dispaced > > > > > > > > > > > > The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP), which monitors Sudan, said > > on Sunday > > > >that > > > > > > new imagery from Friday showed that the SAF controlled Kadugli, > > the capital > > > >of > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, and that thousands of civilians had been > > displaced. > > > > > > > > > > > > The images "show a massing of SAF artillery, light vehicles and > > heavy > > > >transports > > > > > > of the kinds used to carry tanks, troops, and munitions," it said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fighting between the SAF and southern-aligned groups has spread > > across the > > > > > > north-run oil state since June 5. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tens of thousands of people have fled the area, according to the > > UN. > > > > > > > > > > > > Al-Sawarmi Khaled, an SAF spokesperson, said: "We are now > > fighting harder > > > >to > > > > > > control all the area in Southern Kordofan." > > > > > > > > > > > > The SSP, Set up last year by Hollywood actor George Clooney and > > other > > > >activists, > > > > > > says it seeks to head off renewed fighting and atrocities in > > Sudan by > > > >publishing > > > > > > commercial satellite images collated and analysed with the help > > of a UN > > > >agency. > > > > > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, the main oil-producing state that will be left > > in the > > > >north > > > > > > after the south secedes, is home to thousands of fighters who > > fought > > > >against > > > > > > Khartoum during the last civil war, many of them from the Nuba > > mountains > > > >region. > > > > > > > > > > > > Officials with the south's dominant Sudan People's Liberation > > Movement > > > >(SPLA) > > > > > > say clashes started when the north tried to disarm fighters there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Northern officials blame southern-aligned groups for provoking > > the > > > fighting > > > > > > after an official from the north's ruling National Congress Party > > was > > > named > > > > > > winner of a state gubernatorial election last month. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Khartoum, 16 political activists said they were detained for > > about four > > > >hours > > > > > > on Sunday after attempting to stage a demonstration against > > violence in > > > >Southern > > > > > > Kordofan. > > > > > > > > > > > > The south voted to secede in a January referendum promised in a > > 2005 peace > > > >deal > > > > > > that ended decades of civil war. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least seven different armed groups are also fighting the > > southern Juba > > > > > > government, according to the UN. > > > > > > Source: > > > > > > Agencies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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