Maksud kamu ?! Hukum Islam yang ada dimana ?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@...> wrote:
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> Hehehe... nurut hukum Islam, ngebantai Ahmadiyah itu sah. Lu ngedukung hukum 
> Islam apa kagak? Pasti lu ngedukung yg berarti lu ngedukung pembantaian thd 
> orang AHmadiyah
> 
> 
> Dan lu milih mana, hukum Islam atau hukum Indonesia?
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> >________________________________
> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...>
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:02 AM
> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in
> >
> >
> >  
> >Jangan ngelamun dan NGERAMAL ! Makanya ELO mendingan jadi tukang ngeramal 
> >aja dech ! Jadi DUKUN gi dech !
> >
> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hehehe... jadi kalo hukum syariat islam berlaku di Indonesia dan ngebantai 
> >> orang Ahmadiyah itu adalah sah nurut hukum syariat islam itu, maka lu 
> >> ngedukung pembantaian tsb krn hukumnya ngedukung. Gitu kan?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >________________________________
> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:01 AM
> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  
> >> >Secara HUKUM saya sudh menentang suatu pembantaian.
> >> >
> >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Abbas Amin udah bilang terang2an bhw dia netral ngeliat orang Islam 
> >> >> ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah. Artinya, Abbas Amin ga nentang sama sekali 
> >> >> atas pembantaian di Cikeungsi itu.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hehehe.... Abbas Amin udah ngasih liat gimana tampang aslinya.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> >> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:00 PM
> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' 
> >> >> >in
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >Adab Abbas Amin ini  betul-beul sudah adab binatang..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Tidak tahu mau bikin apa dihadapan mayat orang Ahmadiyah yang sudah 
> >> >> >bergelimpangan dan penindasan yang dialami orang Ahmadiyah.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1. Aku gak tahu persisnya kapan dan dimana ? Koik enak saja kau 
> >> >> >> bilang aku ngeliat ?
> >> >> >> 2. Aku juga gak tahu persisnya apa yang mereka itu ributkan !
> >> >> >> 3. Sebelum aku ikut campur; kan sudah ditangani oleh Hamba Hukum di 
> >> >> >> NKRI !? Apa yang bisa saya perbuat !? Apa kau punya IDE Hebat; yang 
> >> >> >> nanti akan membuat aku seperti SUPERMAN !?
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hehehe... jadi lu netral ngeliat orang Ahmadiyah dibantai orang 
> >> >> >> > Islam sesama lu.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Emang koq, paling aman adalah orang kayak lu, sok suci, tp diam 
> >> >> >> > aja ngeliatin sodara lu ngebantai orang lain sambil cuap2 ngebela 
> >> >> >> > sodara lu yg ngebantai itu,
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Beda lu dgn tukang bantai itu adalah si tukang bantai itu nunjukin 
> >> >> >> > keIslamannya secara terus terang dgn ngebantai, sementara lu nipu 
> >> >> >> > spy orang ga sadar dirinya akan dibantai oleh sodara lu tukang 
> >> >> >> > bantai itu.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > >________________________________
> >> >> >> > >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> >> >> >> > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> >> > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:48 AM
> >> >> >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese 
> >> >> >> > >army' in Darfur
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >ÃÆ'‚  
> >> >> >> > >Kok kesimpulan kamu GOBLOK banget sih !? Masa kata2 saya yang 
> >> >> >> > >netral dianggap gapapa bunuh orang !? Dasar ! Kalau tak bisa 
> >> >> >> > >menyimpulkan dak usah nulis lah ! mendingan kamu duduk saja 
> >> >> >> > >dipojokan sambil cengar cengir !
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Jadi asal lu ngerasa orang lain itu bukan Islam, maka gpp 
> >> >> >> > >> ngebantai yg ga Islam 
> >> >> >> > >> itu, bukan?
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> ________________________________
> >> >> >> > >> From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> >> >> >> > >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:27:06 PM
> >> >> >> > >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese 
> >> >> >> > >> army' in Darfur
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> Itu kelompok mayoritas merasa bahwa ahmadiyyah bukan Islam ! 
> >> >> >> > >> nah kalau demikian 
> >> >> >> > >> makin banyak penyeleweng Islam bukan ?!
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Hehehe.... orang Ahmadiyah dibantai tuh oleh sesama muslim. 
> >> >> >> > >> > Apa orang Islam 
> >> >> >> > >> > tukang bantainya ga ngikutin jalan yg benar?
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > ________________________________
> >> >> >> > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@>
> >> >> >> > >> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> >> > >> > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 4:10:52 PM
> >> >> >> > >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by 
> >> >> >> > >> > Sudanese army' in 
> >> >> >> > >> Darfur
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > Bukan ! Mereka berbunuh karena perang antar kelompok !
> >> >> >> > >> > seperti DULU Khatolik lawan Protestan !
> >> >> >> > >> > Maka Tuhan pun menurunkan azabnya kepada mereka yang saling 
> >> >> >> > >> > berperang antar 
> >> >> >> > >> >umat 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Islam ! Mana mereka maju bukan !? Karena apa ? Karena mereka 
> >> >> >> > >> > sudah tidak 
> >> >> >> > >> > mengikuti lagi jalan yang BENAR !
> >> >> >> > >> > 
> >> >> >> > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "bukan.pedanda" 
> >> >> >> > >> > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > Beda orang Islam berbunuhan, seperti antara syiah dan 
> >> >> >> > >> > > sunni, atau membunuh 
> >> >> >> > >> > >seperti yang dilakukan olen al-Qaeda dll. adalah bahwa 
> >> >> >> > >> > >mereka membunuh karena 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >alasan teologis, sesuai dengan pemahaman ajaran mereka.
> >> >> >> > >> > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> 
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Bunuh membunuh bukan hanya di Islam saja Bung ! Sudah 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > begitu, kalau dia 
> >> >> >> > >> > >BENAR2 Uslamnya ; maka pembunuhan akan dijaga benar karena 
> >> >> >> > >> > >itu termasuk DOSA 
> >> >> >> > >> > >BESAR ! kalaupun dilakukan mungkin saja dia sudah keluar 
> >> >> >> > >> > >Islamnya !!!
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Jadi memang Islam rahmat lil alamiin. Orangnya !??? Pasti 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > saja banyak juga 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >yang maling TV dlsb. Tapi bukan karena Islamnya ; tetapi 
> >> >> >> > >> > >kehabisan duit karena 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >sudah dirampok ORANG KAPIR !!!!
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Orang Kapir anak buah DAWKINS itulah penyebab segala 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > kerusuhan didunia ini 
> >> >> >> > >> >!
> >> >> >> > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "bukan.pedanda" 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Dimana-mana orang Islam itu demen membunuh..
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Dan masih ada orang Islam yang sanggup bilang agama 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Islam itu rahmat
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > ---
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Africa
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Dozens of fighters reported dead in west, as monitoring 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > group says 
> >> >> >> > >> > >satellite
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > images show north's army massing in south.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Last Modified: 19 Jun 2011 23:57
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Fighters from the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) in 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Darfur, in the west of 
> >> >> >> > >> > >Sudan,
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > have said that the north's Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) has 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > attacked them 
> >> >> >> > >> >with 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >war
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > planes and military vehicles.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The SLA said the attacks resulted in 27 deaths, 40 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > injuries and the 
> >> >> >> > >> > >displacement
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > of thousands of people.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The reports come as satellite images appeared to show 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > the north Sudanese
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > military massing in the southern border state of 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Kordofan, a monitoring 
> >> >> >> > >> > >group
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > said.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, on the ill-defined border with the 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > south, is among 
> >> >> >> > >> > >several
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > flashpoints as Sudan's south prepares to secede on July 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 9, a move 
> >> >> >> > >> >analysts 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >say
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > could embolden fighters in other parts of the country.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The SAF confirmed it had clashed with fighters in 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Darfur on Sunday in 
> >> >> >> > >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > mountainous Jabel Marra region, but said it had not 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > used aircraft and 
> >> >> >> > >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > fighting had not displaced civilians.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Ibrahim al-Helwu, a spokesperson for SLA, the said the 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > violence began 
> >> >> >> > >> >when
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > government troops advanced from the Darfur settlements 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > of Kas and Nyala.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > He said 27 people, including 19 civilians, were killed 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > and about 40 
> >> >> >> > >> > wounded
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > after an assault by land troops as well as Antonov and 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > MiG aircraft.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > "From the morning, the government started to attack," 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Helwu said, 
> >> >> >> > >> >speaking 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >by
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > phone from Paris. "More than 10,000 civilians are 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > displaced from this 
> >> >> >> > >> > >area".
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The northern army said the fighting in the Jabel Marra 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > region had caused 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > an
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > unconfirmed number of casualties on both sides and that 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > no civilians had 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >been
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > harmed.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Violence in Darfur, where mostly non-Arab fighters are 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > fighting 
> >> >> >> > >> >government
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > troops and largely Arab armed groups, has fallen from 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > its peak in 2003 
> >> >> >> > >> >and 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >2004,
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > but a surge in attacks since December has forced tens 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > of thousands to 
> >> >> >> > >> > flee.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > warrant for Omar 
> >> >> >> > >> > >Hassan
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on charges of 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > masterminding genocide 
> >> >> >> > >> >and 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >war
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > crimes in Darfur.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Khartoum refuses to recognise the court. The UN says as 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > many as 300,000 
> >> >> >> > >> > >people
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > have died during the conflict in Darfur. Khartoum puts 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > the death toll at 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >10,000.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Thousands dispaced
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP), which monitors 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Sudan, said on 
> >> >> >> > >> >Sunday 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >that
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > new imagery from Friday showed that the SAF controlled 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Kadugli, the 
> >> >> >> > >> >capital 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >of
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, and that thousands of civilians had 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > been displaced.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The images "show a massing of SAF artillery, light 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > vehicles and heavy 
> >> >> >> > >> > >transports
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > of the kinds used to carry tanks, troops, and 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > munitions," it said.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Fighting between the SAF and southern-aligned groups 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > has spread across 
> >> >> >> > >> >the
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > north-run oil state since June 5.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Tens of thousands of people have fled the area, 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > according to the UN.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Al-Sawarmi Khaled, an SAF spokesperson, said: "We are 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > now fighting harder 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >to
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > control all the area in Southern Kordofan."
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The SSP, Set up last year by Hollywood actor George 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Clooney and other 
> >> >> >> > >> > >activists,
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > says it seeks to head off renewed fighting and 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > atrocities in Sudan by 
> >> >> >> > >> > >publishing
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > commercial satellite images collated and analysed with 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > the help of a UN 
> >> >> >> > >> > >agency.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, the main oil-producing state that 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > will be left in the 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >north
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > after the south secedes, is home to thousands of 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > fighters who fought 
> >> >> >> > >> > >against
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Khartoum during the last civil war, many of them from 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > the Nuba mountains 
> >> >> >> > >> 
> >> >> >> > >> > >region.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Officials with the south's dominant Sudan People's 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Liberation Movement 
> >> >> >> > >> > >(SPLA)
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > say clashes started when the north tried to disarm 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > fighters there.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Northern officials blame southern-aligned groups for 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > provoking the 
> >> >> >> > >> > fighting
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > after an official from the north's ruling National 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Congress Party was 
> >> >> >> > >> > named
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > winner of a state gubernatorial election last month.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > In Khartoum, 16 political activists said they were 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > detained for about 
> >> >> >> > >> >four 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >hours
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > on Sunday after attempting to stage a demonstration 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > against violence in 
> >> >> >> > >> > >Southern
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > Kordofan.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > The south voted to secede in a January referendum 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > promised in a 2005 
> >> >> >> > >> >peace 
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >deal
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > that ended decades of civil war.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > At least seven different armed groups are also fighting 
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > the southern 
> >> >> >> > >> Juba
> >> >> >> > >> > > > > government, according to the UN.
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