Buseeetttt.....bengis amat...
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From: Abbas Amin <abas_ami...@yahoo.com>
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:07:43
To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [proletar] Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
Semua pengkhianat harus dihukum BERAT; termasuk hukuman MATI !
--- On Mon, 5/9/11, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [proletar] Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 5 September, 2011, 3:21 AM
Emangnya, kalo banyak pengikutnya, lalu agamanya benar? Tolol amat sih lu
ini.
Kalo emang Islam itu agama yg benar, kenapa orang murtad hrs dibunuh nurut
Islam?
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>From: Abbas Amin <abas_ami...@yahoo.com>
>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 9:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [proletar] Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
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>Dan Islam dri awal sudah mau dilenyapkan darimuka bumi.
>Entah kenapa dari satu bisa menjadi milyaran !!!!!!
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>--- On Sun, 4/9/11, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [proletar] Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com>
>Received: Sunday, 4 September, 2011, 10:06 PM
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>> ''Islam has contributed so much to the democratisation of Indonesia.
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>This must be emphasised,'' says Ulil, the founder of the Liberal Islam
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>Network and himself a target of Indonesian terrorists.
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>Hehehe... biasa, orang Islam ngibul gede2an. Apa kontribusi Islam atas
>demokratisasi Indonesia? Minus, krn Islam udah nindas agama lain selama
>puluhan thn.
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>>From: Sunny <am...@tele2.se>
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>>Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 6:45 PM
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>>Subject: [proletar] Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
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>>http://www.smh.com.au/world/jihad-cornered-but-intolerance-rising-20110904-1jsdb.html
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>>Jihad cornered but intolerance rising
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>>September 5, 2011
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>>Changing face of Islam in Indonesia ... Muslims gather for Friday prayers at
>>Istiqlal mosque in Jakarta, one of the largest in south-east Asia. Photo:
>>Irwin Fedriansyah
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>>Authorities are placating extremists, writes Tom Allard in Indonesia.
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>>Ulil Abshar Abdalla is one of Indonesia's most perceptive intellectuals, a
>>Harvard-educated Islamic reformer and an adviser to the President, Susilo
>>Bambang Yudhoyono.
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>>When asked what has happened to Islam in Indonesia since the September 11
>>attacks, he says: ''I think there has been a trend towards intolerance …
>>there is also a trend towards tolerance.''
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>>It's an odd response, but it captures succinctly the vexing paradox that lies
>>within Australia's near neighbour and the nation with the world's largest
>>Muslim population.
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>>Erik de Hart consoles Bill McNeil after losing many of their Coogee Dolphins
>>teammates in the bombings. Photo: Dallas Kilponen
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>>After emerging as the fulcrum of the global jihadist movement in south-east
>>Asia in 2002 when the twin nightclub bombings in Bali killed and maimed
>>hundreds, Indonesia can rightly point to impressive counter-terrorism
>>successes.
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>>Hundreds have been arrested and dozens of plots have been foiled. The radical
>>cleric Abu Bakar Bashir has been handed a long prison term while almost every
>>other terrorist leader of note has either been killed or arrested.
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>>A tiny minority remains inspired by al-Qaeda and poses an enduring threat but
>>the campaign to spread the ideology of offensive jihad against Western
>>infidels and their lackeys to achieve an Islamic caliphate has been
>>comprehensively rejected.
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>>''Islam has contributed so much to the democratisation of Indonesia. This
>>must be emphasised,'' says Ulil, the founder of the Liberal Islam Network and
>>himself a target of Indonesian terrorists.
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>>''Most Muslims here understand that religion is a system of morality, an
>>ethical system, and that politics is not part of the essential teaching of
>>religion.
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>>''The popularity of this proposal of the adoption of sharia in our national
>>law is withering away, it's fading.''
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>>Indonesia's Islamic parties were rebuffed at the polls in 2009, and its most
>>potent Islamist political force, the Prosperous Justice Party, recently
>>formally adopted pluralism as a core principle in its platform.
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>>But while Indonesian authorities remain vigilant in pursuing terrorists, they
>>seem incapable and, worse, unwilling to address another, arguably more
>>pernicious form of religious radicalism.
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>>Rather than explosives, these mobs of militants will use machetes, stones or
>>tins of petrol to attack perceived deviants and destroy houses of worship.
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>>The increase in violence has been particularly pronounced against members of
>>the Ahmadiyah Islamic sect, whose followers believe the Indian religious
>>figure Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a messiah who followed the Prophet Muhammad.
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>>In the western Javanese province of Banten, a frenzied mob attacked an
>>Ahmadiyah house and killed three men in February. The 12 accused, including a
>>teenager caught on film bludgeoning a man to death with a stone, got
>>sentences ranging between three and six months.
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>>The light sentences, some argue, reflected local factors. The verdict was
>>handed down by judges in a district court in one of Indonesia's traditional
>>hardline Islamic heartlands. About 2000 locals voiced support for the accused
>>and intimidated the judges and prosecutors throughout the trial.
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>>But the argument that the case is an anomaly is hard to square against the
>>increase in communal violence, invariably attacks by Islamic fundamentalists
>>on Ahmadis and Christians.
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>>Recent research by the Pew Research Centre found Indonesia was one of two
>>countries that had recorded significant increases in both religious
>>restrictions and incidents of social hostilities in the past five years.
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>>Harder still to reconcile with the notion that Indonesia remains abidingly
>>tolerant is the tepid response from Indonesia's political elites to the rise
>>in religious violence and, in particular, the attacks and court proceedings
>>in Banten.
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>>President Yudhoyono failed to condemn the verdicts, citing the need to
>>respect the rule of law.
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>>If Islamists are failing to make any political inroads, and Indonesian
>>Muslims are overwhelmingly moderate, why does Indonesia's political class
>>refuse to speak clearly and loudly for the country's secular constitution
>>that recognises freedom of religion? Could it be they have made a political
>>calculation that attacks on minorities are popular?
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>>''It's because conservatives are very clever in framing the debate in black
>>and white terms,'' argues Yenny Wahid, the daughter of Indonesia's former
>>president and moderate Islamic cleric Abdurrahman Wahid and a rare,
>>uncompromising voice for tolerance.
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>>''For example, if you condemn attacks on Ahmadiyah, then you are not a good
>>follower of the Prophet Muhammad. So politicians are afraid to speak out
>>because they don't want to appear un-Islamic.''
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>>Wahid says a steady influx of money from the Middle East to fund mosques and
>>schools has had an impact.
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>>The new breed of conservative clerics are not only cashed up, she says, they
>>are passionate, noisy and activist.
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>>When Yudhoyono speaks about maintaining harmony, he sometimes talks about the
>>need to placate militants, rather than defending diversity.
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>>Asked about perceptions by the American interviewer Charlie Rose that the
>>Indonesian state was weak in protecting religious minorities, Yudhoyono
>>replied: ''Of course, I have to maintain the climate of brotherhood here in
>>Indonesia, because the majority of the population are Muslim, so I try to
>>maintain their feelings.''
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>>Wahid counters that ''this policy of appeasement won't work''. ''In the
>>short-term, it may create a measure of stability that the government needs,''
>>she says. ''But it gives [conservatives] too much power. The greater good is
>>sacrificed. We have to worry about where this will lead us in the future.''
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