On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:44 PM Julien Pivotto <roidelapl...@prometheus.io> wrote:
> On 31 Oct 22:26, Julius Volz wrote: > > Hi Tobi, > > > > I just had another brief exchange with Alex privately a few days ago. As > > far as I understand it, his team will come up with a design idea in the > > next couple of weeks, but if anyone has specific desires around what they > > would want to communicate / include on the frontpage, please suggest it > > here :) > > > > I'm obviously also interested in staying in touch about the details. > > > I'd suggest bridging the team with RichiH, to see if we can have the > effort coupled directly with the upcoming revamp of the docs. I'd like > to see how the feedback from the tech writers could have an impact on > the look and feel of the website. > So at first this is focused on the landing page, and then Alex said the changes to the docs section would be minor (from their side). Maybe RichiH's docs people still have landing page input though, I don't know. He said he'd be on vacation for a week, no idea if he's reading these emails here in the meantime :) > > > > Julius > > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 3:40 PM Tobias Schmidt <tob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Heyo, > > > > > > Were there more discussions around this? I'd volunteer to act as a > contact > > > from the Prometheus team, if that helps to keep this initiative moving > > > forward. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Tobi > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:28 PM Alex Barashkov <a...@pixelpoint.io> > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Prometheans, > > >> > > >> Thank you for the great introduction Julius! Our team is looking > forward > > >> to working with you guys and creating new stunning UI. We have some > vision > > >> of how could it look like. If you are up for the idea of redesigning > the > > >> website, we will need to start from the content at first. What > information > > >> do we need to put on the homepage, what’s missing in the current > version? I > > >> have my thoughts on it however it would be good to hear your ideas. > > >> > > >> Choosing the technology is not super important at this moment, > because it > > >> will take 1-1.5 before we complete the design, so we have time to > discuss > > >> and test everything. > > >> > > >> We also will handle the whole implementation of the new website, to > make > > >> sure it looks and works exactly as it was designed. > > >> > > >> It will be very great to define few people who will be able to handle > > >> ongoing communication with us(we won’t take too much of your time) and > > >> decision making. All results of different iterations of course we can > share > > >> in the chat or via email. > > >> > > >> We very like Prometheus and what does it mean for the dev/devops > > >> community so it deserves the great design, that we can help you > create! > > >> > > >> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:30:41 PM UTC+2 Julius Volz wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:54 PM Tobias Schmidt <tob...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> It'd be rad to see a complete site overhaul! The UI could definitely > > >>>> see a lot of improvements, so does our documentation structure > actually. > > >>>> > > >>>> Though, I'm not so keen on adopting a JS site builder for > Prometheus. > > >>>> Compilation speed has already been brought up, but the more > important > > >>>> factor is that the prometheus is predominantly a Go project with Go > > >>>> experience being by far the highest. I have helped a friend with a > larger > > >>>> JS project in the last months and the average number of JS > dependencies and > > >>>> churn in the ecosystem make me very sceptical about us having the > capacity > > >>>> to maintain it properly. In my humble opinion we'd fare better > using Hugo > > >>>> as site generator. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> I'd offer some counter points: Working with Typescript and React / > JSX / > > >>> TSX / CSS Modules (all of which you get with Gatsby) is sooo > productive in > > >>> comparison to doing Go-based HTML templating. You get a thoroughly > typed > > >>> representation of your site across code, styling, and content, with > amazing > > >>> tooling right in your editor. Frederic seems to have recently > discovered > > >>> this himself :) > > >>> https://twitter.com/fredbrancz/status/1314219293224169474 > > >>> > > >>> I'm not too worried about dependencies, as they might be many, but > they > > >>> have never really gotten in my way, install really fast, and the big > > >>> ecosystem has packages to do pretty much anything you might want. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Funny enough, just last night I started working on the long-standing > > >>>> request to automate the repository docs compilation, so that the > site > > >>>> updates on new prometheus/alertmanager releases automatically. I > have it > > >>>> almost ready - but oh boy is our navigation code a nightmare. I > have the > > >>>> feeling the main issue for our compilation speed is the menu > generation and > > >>>> quite a few nested loops which get executed every time. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> Great! > > >>> > > >>> The menu generation is exactly what Julien optimized through caching > > >>> last time: https://github.com/prometheus/docs/pull/1662 > > >>> > > >>> It did make the code more complicated than it already was, but the > > >>> speedup was big. Hopefully this will actually work better with > Gatsby :) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:26 PM Julius Volz <juliu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:20 PM Julien Pivotto < > > >>>>> roidel...@prometheus.io> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I am 1000% for this, but it gatsby a replacement for nanoc? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes. 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