Hello Mark,

we use Lattice and Altera for programmable logic. ispDESIGN Expert
(Lattice) is freeware. They call it "starter", but it covers the M4 family
up to M4-512, the complete ispLSI1K, 2K, 5K families, and 8K up to 8840.
That is more than 90% of all the devices they do. For Altera we use the
MAX+Plus2 (freeware), which also covers the vast majority of their devices.
The biggest Altera I ever used is the ACEX 1K100 (100K gates), and it is
supported by this software.
XILINX, Actel et, al. I do not use for the discussed reason, unless there
is an absolute necessity to do so, which did not happen so far. I am
definitely not willing to pay for software tools, which I can only use to
design logic into the devices of the manufacturor supplying the software.
This would be different, if I chose to use vendor-independent tools like
Synario. They live only from SW, as they don't sell ICs. But so far, I get
on quite well with the free development tools supplied by the IC
manufacturors.

Regards,

Gisbert




                                                                                       
                        
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Gisbert,

You make some nice products where your work.   I couldn't zoom in enough to
see what parts your using.  I own the Lattice, Xilinx and Altera tools.
None were free.  Used Actel at one point.  It also was not free.   So,
who's
free tools are you using and what devices can they target?

Mark

>
> You are invited to have a look at them under www.nateurope.com.
> By the way, do you have a name, intellasys?
>
> Gisbert
>
>
> That must limit your designs!
>
> >
> > >Bastards... Do they want to sell ICs or software? It always makes me
> > >mad.
> > >
> >
> > Both, Tony, ICs and SW. Therefore, whereever possible, I implement only
> > devices into my designs which supply development software for free.
> >
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