there's always a next victim, plenty of Enrons or Barings in the world to chose from (anyone remember _that_ one? ). What concerns me is the little victims, who get squeezed somewhere in the middle. Management gets record paychecks and benefits, companies file chapter 11 , shareholders get shafted, stockmarkets collapse , world recession, WW3, that's fine . But don't mess with my CAD programs and change the data structures , menu options and keyboard shortcuts every other day , I'm too old to learn new stuff for free . Actually far from free, I'd have to pay for it twofold, send them my money _and_ waste my time=more money to get close to what I do now with the old tools , should the Software Bugs Gods and the purgatory of ATS allow it . Unfortunately I've seen this kind of scenario happen time and again, been in companies which went this route and I think Altium has no control over its own fate now. The dice were cast probably over one year ago, business plans a la Iridium were concocted, acquisitions and mergers devised, new management in place, new name, a huge machine got rolling . Now it's a year later and the damage is done . This is like the Titanic when they saw the iceberg, before they hit . All is still fine but not for long and the writing is on the wall.
My Deepest Condolences, Matt Tudor , MSEE http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ingram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Will ATS kill Altium? > Stock exchange agrees ;-) > > http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/chartsSearch.jsp?searchBy=asxCode&asxCode > =ALU&TimeFrame=D > > Cheers > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:19 AM > Subject: [PEDA] Will ATS kill Altium? > > > Heck, I am still using P98, PCB only! > > We have a P99SE license, but I have been unwilling to go through the > learning > curve for PCB, much less use P99SE schematic vs. OrCAD 7.2! > > That being the case, why would I want to spend ANY money on DXP, and get > trapped into annual maintenance? > > Once again, support and maintenance included in the purchase price is what > made Protel what it was yesterday (as opposed what it is today). > > Regardless of DXP, its features, and not being able to separate features and > pricing, ATS seems like the deathnell that has consumed so many other > companies. Sure, penneyheads might think it is a terrific source of ongoing > revenue, but it will probably turn so many off, that their revenue may > actually go down, and kill the company!! > > Hey Protel (Altium), it still may not be too late!!! Until you actually > charge someone for just ATS, you can still regain your sanity, and flush > this > whole annual maintenance crap where it belongs! Otherwise, I would just > start counting the days until Altium becomes just another carcass on the > smelly heap of business failures - not because of a poor products, but from > bad business decisions. > > Maybe what has happened is what I have experienced before at other > companies. > New management (with a great resume) comes from a company we've heard of who > just went down the tubes (through no fault of their own, of course), gets > hired to take over, and quickly hires all his buddies (who also worked at > the > previous failed company), institutes significant changes in policy and > management style, and within a year or three, sends this company down the > tubes too, then moves on to the next victim with an additional VERY > impressive title from an even bigger company on his resume. (and so on, and > so on...) > > I wonder who the next victim will be? ************************************************************************ * Tracking #: B68B32CD931FF742A2724997FEA85646C429AE8F * ************************************************************************ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *