John,
Yup I have not seen PADS in action although Mentor
now owns both, but I agree Expedition is the best at this type
of track manipulation (Auto-Interactive) ,
I really have not seen anything out ther better at it
but it does cost a bit more that this. I would also agree that track
editing is very stick-like almost etch-a-sketch level in Protel
compared to Expedition. But again Expedition does cost more.
It takes many many more steps to edit many tracks that need to be moved
in Protel even with group moves etc.

Bob Wolfe



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] PADS ?


> I don't know about PADS but Mentor Expedition does this very effectively.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] PADS ?
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> >
> > we are about to embark on a large project for an outside customer
> > (second spin, one year in rev, 16 layers, yada yada)
> >
> > we will be using 99SE and probably spectra
> >
> > in talking with the manager (a very smart fellow BTW)
> > at our customer's place he said:
> > 'I HATE Protel!' quite vigorously
> > i said "Oh?" (pretty diplomatic i thought)
> >
> > he said he watches his people tediously draw track segments and
> > then when they have to move something, rip it up and re-draw everything
> > segment by segment
> > 'very primitive' as he put it
> >
> > he then went on to say that he used to do this stuff and he used PADs
> >
> > he said with PADS he could pick up a fully routed and fanned out QFP and
> > plop it somewhere else
> > all the traces would remain attached and reroute themselves around
> > obstacles
> > very fast and easy he claimed, like a mini-manual-autorouter
> >
> > anybody know about this or have experience with newer versions of PADS ?
> > my last look at it was probably in the 70's :)
> >
> > As DXP does not seem to offer any productivity gains which i can see we
> > may be looking for another package
> >
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