Ian and the group, Ok, I have waited for the dust to settle on this one before asking what may appear to some to be a simple question, but before I do, I need to explain a few things.
First, I am "color blind". Not totally, as some might think, since I can see and distinguish most, if not all colors, but the type of color blindness that I have has to do more with shade distinction, and distinguishing certain colors from one another. The standard question that I get is "how do you know what color the traffic light is?", and that is not the problem, since I can tell that red is red, and green is green, and yellow is yellow, etc., quite nicely. The problem that I have is telling certain shades of green from certain shades of brown, which sometimes I cannot distinguish very well at all, especially in low light conditions. I also have a problem with some other combinations of colors when there is not too much contrast in the colors, such a yellow lines or letters on a white background. Anyway, with that as a background, I have always preferred the Protel 98 "Classic" color scheme, as opposed to the "Delivered" (I am avoiding the use of the word "Default" here (even though that is what Protel calls it)) Protel 99 SE color scheme. I remember back in July of 01 when I first started at Optical Crossing and they bought me a brand new seat of P99SE which I installed on a brand new Dell 4100, after I installed the new copy of Protel, I changed the colors to suit my tastes (Tools > Preferences > Colors > Classic Colors, plus a few other changes). Some time after this (and after the "mouse wars" with Protel NA), but before joining this forum, I began playing around with the layer drawing order, under Tools > Preferences > Display, and at some point in time I did in fact Hit the "Default" Button under that "Dialogue", and yes, strange things did happen. Ok, now we are up to date with 2 exceptions. 1. The Super Wazoo 19 inch Dell Monitor I had at work there at OC used to have a brilliant white background that hurt my eyes, especially at high resolution where it had limited scan rates available which were not too compatible with the bright fluorescent lights in the large room that I had to share with many other people before we moved and I got my own large office with appropriate filters and "grilles" on the lights. As a result, I had to avoid white, and select several contrasting colors so that I could see and distinguish with my "color visual limitations". 2. When I bought my own copy of Protel 99 SE / DXP, and installed it here at home where adjustable incandescent lighting and an IBM 19 inch Monitor, I never seemed to have the problems that I had with the Monitor at work, and low and behold, I just checked and found that after a year and a half, I still have the basic "Delivered" color scheme on my system here (not the "Classic Colors"). Ok, so that brings us up to the present. With all of that said, I have read all of the posts to this thread very carefully, and I am still lost as to the meaning of the following: > >>Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! > >> I believe that here we are speaking about the "Default" Button under the "Layer Drawing Order" Button on the "Display" Tab, and not the "Default Color" Button on the "Colors" Tab (at least that was what I was originally talking about). > >>Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 > >>and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same > >>era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good > >>file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know > >>that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. > > I do not understand just what is meant by that first sentence above here, but I think that it may mean a lot more than just changing the colors to the "Classic Colors" scheme as I did on my machine at Optical Crossing. Can someone elaborate on just what exactly we are talking about here. I know that at some time on my OC system, I appeared to have lost the ability to alter the color of the "Connections" (if I ever had that ability), and I even seem to have lost that ability on my home installation too, although I do not remember having ever hit the "Default" Button on this system. Ian, You are probably the best one to explain this all, and also clarify why I would need to do something with the data you have provided below, and how I can tell whether or not I need to do anything at all. One final caveat: If I actually did alter something on my OC system other than just the colors of my ADVPCB99SE.ini file, would this account for some of the bizarre crashes that I and some others have been having all of these years that are still otherwise unexplained? Thanks, JaMi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? > On 08:44 AM 9/10/2003, Ian Wilson said: > >On 08:05 AM 9/10/2003, Frank Gilley said: > >>Jami and all... > >> > >> >Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you > >> >want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the > >> >same dialog box and use the "Default" button, and everything will be set > >> >back to normal. > >> > >>NO!! > >> > >>Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! > >> > >>Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 > >>and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same > >>era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good > >>file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know > >>that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. > > > >It is easy enough to rewrite the relevant section of the appropriate ini > >file to get the layers back but it is certainly irritating. No need to > >re-install. I haven't got the details of the ini file and the setting to > >hand but it should be on the archive somewhere. > > > Here are the details: > Copy and paste the following entries over the existing entries in the > ADVPCB99SE.ini file which is located in the Windows installation directory: > > LayerDrawingOrder0=74 > LayerDrawingOrder1=33 > LayerDrawingOrder2=34 > LayerDrawingOrder3=75 > LayerDrawingOrder4=0 > LayerDrawingOrder5=1 > LayerDrawingOrder6=2 > LayerDrawingOrder7=3 > LayerDrawingOrder8=4 > LayerDrawingOrder9=5 > LayerDrawingOrder10=6 > LayerDrawingOrder11=7 > LayerDrawingOrder12=8 > LayerDrawingOrder13=9 > LayerDrawingOrder14=10 > LayerDrawingOrder15=11 > LayerDrawingOrder16=12 > LayerDrawingOrder17=13 > LayerDrawingOrder18=14 > LayerDrawingOrder19=15 > LayerDrawingOrder20=16 > LayerDrawingOrder21=17 > LayerDrawingOrder22=18 > LayerDrawingOrder23=19 > LayerDrawingOrder24=20 > LayerDrawingOrder25=21 > LayerDrawingOrder26=22 > LayerDrawingOrder27=23 > LayerDrawingOrder28=24 > LayerDrawingOrder29=25 > LayerDrawingOrder30=26 > LayerDrawingOrder31=27 > LayerDrawingOrder32=28 > LayerDrawingOrder33=29 > LayerDrawingOrder34=30 > LayerDrawingOrder35=31 > LayerDrawingOrder36=32 > LayerDrawingOrder37=35 > LayerDrawingOrder38=36 > LayerDrawingOrder39=37 > LayerDrawingOrder40=38 > LayerDrawingOrder41=39 > LayerDrawingOrder42=40 > LayerDrawingOrder43=41 > LayerDrawingOrder44=42 > LayerDrawingOrder45=43 > LayerDrawingOrder46=44 > LayerDrawingOrder47=45 > LayerDrawingOrder48=46 > LayerDrawingOrder49=47 > LayerDrawingOrder50=48 > LayerDrawingOrder51=49 > LayerDrawingOrder52=50 > LayerDrawingOrder53=51 > LayerDrawingOrder54=52 > LayerDrawingOrder55=53 > LayerDrawingOrder56=54 > LayerDrawingOrder57=55 > LayerDrawingOrder58=56 > LayerDrawingOrder59=57 > LayerDrawingOrder60=58 > LayerDrawingOrder61=59 > LayerDrawingOrder62=60 > LayerDrawingOrder63=61 > LayerDrawingOrder64=62 > LayerDrawingOrder65=63 > LayerDrawingOrder66=64 > LayerDrawingOrder67=65 > LayerDrawingOrder68=66 > LayerDrawingOrder69=67 > LayerDrawingOrder70=68 > LayerDrawingOrder71=69 > LayerDrawingOrder72=70 > LayerDrawingOrder73=71 > LayerDrawingOrder74=72 > LayerDrawingOrder75=73 > LayerDrawingOrder76=79 > LayerDrawingOrder77=76 > LayerDrawingOrder78=76 > LayerDrawingOrder79=76 > LayerDrawingOrder80=76 > LayerDrawingOrder81=76 > LayerDrawingOrder82=76 > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *