PH,

When you say that PADS is #1 which part of the Globe
do you have in mind?
Europe uses mainly PCAD/Protel/Orcad. Cadstar/Redac
was one of the options, too.

Mira

--- Protel Hell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't agree with that, FPGA is kinda like
> Windows was in the mid 90's, 
> the CAD that didn't make the transition either died
> or suffered. That's 
> probably the main reaon PADS is #1, they were the
> first to be a true Windows 
> ap. The others that didn't do it died, the ones that
> didn't do it quick 
> enough floundered. Some stiil haven't done it right.
> With you guys refusing 
> to move off your precious 99SE to DXP there wouldn't
> be anybody that wants 
> DXP other than those who want it for it's FPGA
> capability. DXP is not 
> efficient enough for board layout only, it has to
> offer SOMETHING other than 
> it's low cost to hook people. They are trying to be
> a complete solution for 
> the 21st century but you guys are stuck in the
> 1980's. Bring back the DOS 
> version! may as well bring back mylar and tape!
> 
> PH
> 
> >From: "-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Protel EDA Forum"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [PEDA] SV: Licenses
> >Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:03:32 +0200
> >
> >
> >If Altium/Protel had spent their development
> resources on their core
> >business (SCH + PCB design tools) instead of
> believeing they could conquer
> >the market providing all other dev. tools
> (simulation, fpga etc), they 
> >would
> >have been no. 1 today.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >A former Protel reseller
> >
> >
> >-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >Fra: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sendt: 29. juni 2004 21:47
> >Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Emne: Re: [PEDA] Licenses
> >
> >
> >Altiums Protel will never be number 1, it is just
> too cumbersome. Fine for
> >people who have plenty of time but little $$
> >
> >PH
> >
> > >From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Protel EDA Forum"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses
> > >Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:56:57 -0400
> > >
> > >Mike,
> > >
> > >I doubt that PADS schematic can overtake
> anything....end comment
> > >
> > >With regard to Orcad yes in it's day (DOS) it was
> the absolute best, 
> >hands
> > >down. Something happened when it went to Windows
> then Cadence bought them
> > >and well..
> > >
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "'Protel EDA Forum'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > That is pretty interesting data gathered here.
>  The interesting part 
> >is
> > >that
> > > > Cadence has been successful in trashing OrCAD
> from number 1 to a has
> > >been.
> > > > I doubt if PADs schematic has overtaken OrCad.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Reagan
> > > > EDSI
> > > > Frederick MD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Hausherr
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> > > > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > >
> > > > I just talked to Mentor Graphics PADS division
> and they say that since
> > >the
> > > > 1st release of PADS Software in 1985 they have
> logged 85,000 licenses.
> > > > PowerLogic (schematic) and PowerPCB (layout)
> are separate licenses.
> > > >
> > > > There are currently 18,000 PADS-PowerPCB seats
> on yearly maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > It's my personal guess that there are about
> 35,000 PADS-PowerPCB seats
> > >in
> > > > use. There are many people using old licenses
> that are not on yearly
> > > > maintenance due to financial hardships over
> the past 4 years.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > Tom Hausherr
> > > > PCB Libraries
> > > > CEO, Director of Technology
> > > > 858.592.4826 Phone
> > > > 847.745.0450 Fax
> > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Website: http://www.PCBLibraries.com &
> http://www.PCBYellowPages.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:50 AM
> > > > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder just how many licensed seats there
> are of Protel in the
> > >world....
> > > > is that published anywhere?
> > > > Also I wonder if Pads has published the same
> info?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't participate in the poll so it's at
> least off by one.
> > > > LOL...
> > > >
> > > > I would venture to say Protel may have more
> seats that Pads... but 
> >they
> > >are
> > > > mostly not in the Southwest of the U.S.
> > > >
> > > > How about it Altium... how many active seats
> of Protel are there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Brooks
> > > > PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
> > > > Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
> > > > http://pcbwizards.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:28 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> > > >
> > > > According to what statistical method?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Tom Hausherr
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:09 PM
> > > > > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 & IPC-7351.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian,
> > > > >
> > > > > We took a poll and Protel is number two in
> worldwide
> 
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