Hi Mike,
Waves "soundShifter" is fairly accessible with a control surface.
I just grabbed it for $129.00 the other day and wow!!! Changing Pitch
or time or both for full mixes, complete songs is stunning to say the
least!
Still in early stages of whacking!
AS for vocal tuning, Waves "Tune" sounds or may be I should say does
not sound! LOL excellent!
I have just about got it conquered I hope! LOL
Your pitch may beri.
But your mileage won't with waves! LOL
Chuck
On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, MLock1g wrote:
Sorry don't know what happen.
Hey Jake Pitch&Time is probably more used in the protools DAW the
older V. was more accessible but there are some work around for
protools9.
To your earlier question yes at some point you have to hear it though,
even if they are viewing it on screen theres no perfect wave to note
depiction when it comes to say a vocal track unless its being sung
with no modulation.
L8R
MLock1g wrote:
Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:
Dear Jake,
I remember someone asking about Melodyne ae awhile ago on this
list. Melodyne is undoubtably the best tuning device I've ever
heard, but I don't know about its accessibility. On the other
hand, sonar'sV vocal is not bad and almost entirely accessible.
Maybe you could have BootCamp on your Mac and use Windows, jaws,
and sonar's V Vocal if nothing is available on ProTools, but that
would require learning how to use all this as well. I hope that
ProTools experts will come up with another solution.
Best,
JPR
http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: a new round of questions
Dear JP, I agree with you hole heartedly. Illegal downloading is
a large problem in the US as well, and has undoubtedly hurt the
music industry. This does not change the realities of our
situation. As I see it speaking in general terms. We have 2
choices we can either resign our selves to working with what ever
comes across our table witch means having to polish terds and find
the occasional gold nugget, if you will pardon the metaphor. Or we
can become so good and so well known for our craft and turning out
a good product that we can demand a higher price and thus gather a
more exclusive client list, and only work with those who are worth
that kind of money and time. I am just starting out learning and
know I at least in the beginning will not be worth that level of
exclusivity. So my question is how do we deal with the day to day
non-golden nuggets and still make them as shiny as possible. The
specific question is tuning and does the screen reader help with
the visual representation or do we have to develop a masters ear
if not a masters client list.
thanks
Jake
PS Thank you list for indulging my rants.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: a new round of questions
Dear Jake,
I know exactly what you're saying, but I also think it is one
of the reasons why the music industry is dying. The pearl necklace
you're talking about is just plastic now, I'm in France, and we
also have a big problem about kids downloading music illegally.
It's bad, but maybe these kids, down inside, feel that what the
industry is trying to sell them as music is not worth any more.
My musical background goes from Mozart to Thelenious Monk,
Miles Davis, the Beatles, Frank Zappa, and also African music I'm
very fond of, and they want to sell me lady gaga?
Okay, I'm getting really off topic now and I hope you'll excuse
me for this.
Cheers,
JPR
http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: a new round of questions
I completely agree but it is a fact of life if we want to
make a living all of our clients are not going to be legend status
good or even particularly professional, and we are going to have
to polish terds from time to time and just hope it doesn't become
our bred and butter. I have sat in on 4 or 5 sessions now and it
strikes me that a large part of the time in studio working on an
album is turning a string of terds in to a pearl necklace. So how
do we as blind engineers compensate for the unprofessional sound
of the majority of our clients?
thanks much
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: a new round of questions
Dear Jake and all,
it has nothing to do with you and it's probably off topic,
but it just striked me when I read your message, why a hell don't
people learn how to sing? Did the Beach boys need that?
Cheers,
JPR
http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: a new round of questions
I just sat in on my first recording session today, it was
informative and thought provoking. The engineer was using Logic
rather then PT but I assume the principles are the same. One
question I have is regarding tuning. They laid down some vocal
tracks and were tuning them to harmonize with each other. As I
understand it they were using a visual representation of the 3
vocal tracks (Low and High backing tracks and a lead vocal track.)
The pitch of the 3 tracks were displayed as a graf or some thing
and they were able to clean up the sharps and flats and in one
case even drop the pitch a few notes to be more in continuity with
the other 2 tracks. They could see it as I have said mapped out,
is VO able to interpret the visual representation or do we just
have to have an ear for it.
thanks much
Jake
Chuck Reichel
954-742-0019
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
