regardless of whether it does no harm, it does no good. Please, Nickus, hold 
your horses, OK? We all want this to happen.

Slau

On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:

> Slau, as I said I don't think it can do any harm to extend a hand of
> friendship to them now. Then they at least know of us and know that we
> struggle with some accessibility things. They might just mention us or
> something about accessibility to someone at Avid over a lunch meeting
> or in passing. This might make Avid realise that the main streem
> comunity is aware of us and that they are actually supporting us. In
> the future if we need their help, we can still outright ask if they
> will be able to help us with perswasive power at Avid, I'm sure they
> won't just do it out of their own but they will be willing to help
> where they can if asked.
> 
> Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Guys,
>> 
>> Your enthusiasm is great and everybody wants this to happen. Public support 
>> is a good thing but there's a time and a place to call upon it. It's a card 
>> you get to play a very limited number of times and now is not the time. It 
>> might be in the future. I hope not, of course, but we're hopeful that it 
>> won't be required. I'm not going to belabor the point. Please be patient.
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Chris Norman wrote:
>> 
>>> Be it a Pro Tools expert group or the women's institute, in my
>>> experience, the more people who know about a thing, even if it
>>> directly affects them or not, they still take an interest, and even if
>>> 2 people who aren't blind PT users mention the word accessibility in
>>> earshot of Avid, that's two more than before.
>>> 
>>> On 14/11/2012, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi guys
>>>> I personally think getting some mainstreem publicity for our cause and
>>>> getting the message out there of a blind PT using community can only
>>>> be a good thing and if anything can be an advantage.
>>>> Slau in the past I mentioned to you that on behalf of us you should
>>>> connect and build a relationship with the guys of the pro tools expert
>>>> blog but back then you said to me that it's not a good idea because we
>>>> already have direct contact with Avid. I still think it's a good idea
>>>> to connect with them and let them know of our existance. I'm not
>>>> saying ask them to start putting pressure on Avid or anything, but
>>>> those guys are really tight with some of the guys working at Avid so
>>>> if we need anything in the future, they might be able to help with a
>>>> little perswasive power. No one is quite sure of the PT landscape in
>>>> the future, the entire mainstreem comunity is unsure of certain things
>>>> and we are even more so with aaax accessibility etc. I think if only
>>>> for the sake of them knowing about us, it's still a good idea to
>>>> extend a friendly hand.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian Casey wrote:
>>>>> Haha, it was rather public and very much on the record which caught me off
>>>>> gard for one! Good show though!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/11/2012, at 3:06 PM, "Slau Halatyn" <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did happen to catch those mentions on Pensado's Place but I didn't
>>>>>> expect that to go down exactly in that manner. At any rate, it's all
>>>>>> good in the end and perhaps even better. More to come :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Slau
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Brian Casey wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Slau, great stuff, i also noticed two very strong supportive mentions
>>>>>>> of the meeting on dave pensados youtube show, i'm sure your more than
>>>>>>> aware of that very public and intentional shout out!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everything you've been telling us about the merrits of your approach
>>>>>>> seems to be justified completely, well done, hopefully these meetings
>>>>>>> can consolidate a more official and future proof state of affairs.
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/11/2012, at 11:07 PM, "Slau Halatyn" <slauhala...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Forgive the delay but I wanted to update the list on my meeting with
>>>>>>>> Avid. I'll offer a more detailed explanation in a few days. For now,
>>>>>>>> let me say that the meeting went well and was well attended. Among the
>>>>>>>> many changes at Avid, there have been a few changes to key people in
>>>>>>>> charge of Pro Tools. I believe, in this case, it happens to work in
>>>>>>>> our favor. Again, I'll explain in more detail in a few days. For now,
>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for a couple of things to be coordinated before I go into
>>>>>>>> detail about the meeting and what we might expect in the near future.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On a side note, I was scheduled to come back from san Francisco on
>>>>>>>> Sunday, October 28. Unfortunately, because of Hurricane Sandy, my
>>>>>>>> flight was cancelled and thus I was forced to stay in San Francisco an
>>>>>>>> extra 4 days. While there are worse places to be stuck, there are also
>>>>>>>> cheaper places to be stuck, for sure. I'd like to think it was money
>>>>>>>> well spent. Anyway, I've been playing catch-up since then. Things are
>>>>>>>> getting back to normal so give me a few more days and I'll share
>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Slau
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Chris Norman.
>>> 
>>> <!-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -->

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