The annoying thing with the pro/vs retina is I can't seem to be able to configure a pro without retina with 16 gigs of ram.

Think I'm going off mac for a while anyway, perhaps its not the time to jump in, there should be a new mac pro around in the next few years if they keep a high end solution going at all, maybe that will be the time!

Brian.
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From: "Monkey Pusher" <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:49 PM
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some boot camp questions quick responses very much appreciated

Retina's don't have optical drives. they are essentially the Pro
version of the AIR.  Hell a maxxed out top of the line air is starting
to get to the point of usuable for real work lol

On 2/26/13, Brian Casey <brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The whole Retina model vs non retina model  thing is bugging me

There are some interesting refurbished models knocking about at the moment,

none with 8 or 16 gigs of  ram  hat have the optical drive though.

But I think my questions about the apple audio chip are answered anyway,
nobody seems to have issues with them under boot camp.
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From: "Monkey Pusher" <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:14 PM
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some boot camp questions quick responses very much appreciated

I believe the 13 inch   are the ones that are limited to dual core
processors. gotta go with a 15 inch if you want quad core in a laptop.
Yeah cuz its an after market  mod you would have to siled out the
drive bay and put the cdrom drive back in if you had to take it in. T
That being said, I challenge you to name a PC maker who has a warranty
like apple care  despite the fact you will have to swap the original
part back in.

On 2/26/13, Brian Casey <brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for those thoughts.

Yeah I'm confidednt of the performance of these new macbooks, but
funnily
enough I'm having trouble figuring the macbook pro vs retina thing on
the
mac website....maybe the macbook pro without retina are restricted to
dual
core processors an d8 gigs ram or something, must check again.

One thing swaying me back to buying a purpose built laptop for windows
to
tie me over is I can get one with two internal hard rivdes, one ssd and
one
sata 7200 rpm like you say without ruining my warrantee.

If I remember correctly dropping in a new hard drive into a macbook is
an
issue there, but I guess you coul dalways swop it back if an issue
arose,
but that's not particularly honest.

Brian.


From: TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:52 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some boot camp questions quick responses very much
appreciated


Any of the current Gen mac book pros or mac book pros retina should be
fine.
When you Boot Camp, apple provides you with all the windows drivers for

the
internal hardware of  that speciffic computer so everything will work
well
under windows. If you get a current gen mac book pro with 8 or 16gb of

ram
it will handle sonar and etc  fine. The advantage to a macbook pro over
a
mac book retina is you can remove the cd rom drive and put in a second HD

f
you want anduse the CD rom drive as an external drive. If you travel
alot
this allows you to have two internal drives and not have to worry abut
an
external HD. As far as the second drive or external HD you want that one

to
be a 7200 rpm drive  or higher, not a solid state drive as those aren't
made
to handle being constantly written to like they would be when recording.

It
can handle it fine but it will shorten the life of solid state drives
the
more you constatntly write to them as in a recording session. Solid
state
drives are fine for the main boot drives and  I highly recommend them
for
that.

On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Brian Casey wrote:


  Thanks Chris,


  From: Chris
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:10 AM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Some boot camp questions quick responses very much
appreciated


  Hire Brian.


  I use a macbook in my studio, and though its not anywhere near
professional, I don't have any problems with it, and its far from new,
or
even good spec.


  On the boot camp side, I rub that too, and it seems to do fine,
although I
only use it for less than demanding tasks. One thing I particularly like

is
that you can use the headphone jack, and the laptop speakers at the same
time. Not sure if this is intentional, but its cool anyways.


  Only thing I'd say, is probably avoid windows 8, as I find a lot of
times
the sound doesn't load up on start-up and I am forced to use a braille
display to get it back.


  I know nothing about drives, other than that I an using a western
digital
drive.


  Anyways, hope I helped somewhat, and hopefully someone with more
knowledge
of these subjects can step in and tell you more.


  HTH,

  Sent from my iPad

  On 26 Feb 2013, at 08:25, "Brian Casey" <brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


    Hey all,

    Appologies firstly, as some of these questions aren't directly PT
related, but they all relate to me jumping back into protools, and
really
this list is the best knowledge base for this.

    Basically my studio windows machine is giving trouble and the daw
builder in the UK I got it from is being very awkward with tech support,

but
my studio business is getting busier and busier and I'm under a lot of
pressure.

    I had planned on getting a laptop to complement my windows daw as I
travel a bit and it would allow me to keep up with editing etc, and for
affordability I was going to go windows custom daw again with the
laptop,
particularly as I don't feel I have time to get up to speed with
protools
having dipped my toes in with it right when 8.0.4 came out and I had
access
to a mac/pt rig.

    Anyway, with my studio machine embarrassing me in front of clients
and
my previous wish to have a mobile solution, I'm now thinking I'll get a
top
of the range macbook and it should be more powerful than my 2 years old
2.8
ghz quad core i5 windows machine, so it could function as my windows
based
daw, and I can in parallel be getting propperly comfortable with VO on
the
OSX side of my system partition.

    I need this machine soon so any contributions from listers would be
appreciated on the following:

    1. anyone here running a studio off a Macbook. I know technically
bang
for buck is never as good in terms of processing heft etc when you go
for
the mobile solutions, but stability etc should be fine shouldn't it?
Apple
can be trusted on this front surely?
    2. One of the reasons I decided a macbook is the best choice for me
even
running windows is that I'll need an internal audio chip in whatever
system
I get for jaws feedback, but this would kind of throw a cat in amung the
pigeons when buying a windows custom daw, but I'm thinking the apple
internal audio chip probably works flawlessly with windows and doesn't
tend
to clash with hardware/sequencers etc on the windows side. Is this a
fair
assumtion to make? To me it may seem like a safer bet than some windows
based laptop using a real teq chip or god knows what not. It’s a bit more

of
a known quantity.
3. On the same note, I know that under the mac os the core audio and
internal soun dchip in the macbook is perfectly acceptable and can run
at
acceptable latencies with logic or even PT for mixing etc when on the
go,
would the same hold true on the windows side. How for example would that built in hardware work for me with sonar to tie me over while I get ready

to
jump to pt. Are there asio/wdm drivers that run well with the apple
audio
hardware in the macbook or what's the story there.
    4. A more PT related question. Anyone have recommendations with
regard
to external thunderbolt/usb 3.0 drives. I take it 7200 rpm sata drives
are
still a better choice than solid state in this regard, has avid given
the
green light to any thunderbolt stuff yet? Is anyone using/liking anything

in
particular for their audio drive? All other thoughts on that side of
things
are welcome.

    I willl post these questions on midi mag also, but there aren't so
many
mac users there, so I hope you all forgive the relatively off topic post

as
I'm in a bit of a professional crisis.

    I'd have much prefered to gentley get into the world of mac/pt in a
years time or more like I had planned, but circumstances right now seem
to
point to it being a good choice to go with mac now.

    Cheers,
    Brian.


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