Well, I was interested in mixing and mastering. For mixing, check out:
1. Mike Senior - Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio
That one really illustrates what it takes to get a mix up to
commercial standards.
(and check out Mike's excelent website, including an enormous free
multitrack library of material to practice on!)
www.cambridge-mt.com
and
2. Roey Izhaki - Mixing Audio - Concepts Practices and Tools
http://www.mixingaudio.com/
That one is extremely thorough, and every example in the book comes
in audio form on a data DVD. If something confuses you in the first
book or you want to learn a lot about a specific thing, such as
compressors, reverb, etc., check it out in the second book.
Generally, Focal Press puts out a lot of great material.
For mastering, the bible is:
Bob Katz - Mastering Audio; the Art and the Science.
His site is at:
http://www.digido.com
Hopefully someone can recommend a good text on recording.
At 12:11 PM 7/11/2014, you wrote:
In your defense, Chris, you do have a very valid point about
reading. That I'll give ya. Are there any good titles you'd
recommend starting with?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca>
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Well, I was wrong.
if you can't afford school, you can still get and read lots of
books on recording, or producing, or mixing or mastering etc.
The FS in dBFS means full scale. (not the same as dbV dBU dBSPL etc.)
At 04:37 AM 7/11/2014, you wrote:
You wrote:
First of all, Chris, you probably shouldn't expect that people
have the time to listen to an mp3 where you start going into your
preference settings. That's just not reasonable for most people.
And, I didn't! expect people to be required to listen. Why do you
think I said, if you want! to listen to it, it may help explain
things. Nowhere what so ever did I make mention that people
absolutely just, had! to listen to it. If you don't wanna play
it, or don't have the time, then, don't. Plain and simple. It's
only an option I provided.
Secondly, if you're close to clipping with your preamps all the
way down, then there's another issue here that you need to address
and I'm not sure what that is but I can assure you that no
microphone's own output signal is hot enough to hit line level
without a preamp of some sort.
The issue is Slau, it's apparently not hitting that hot, you're
correct. Even when Sweetwater went in and looked, it shows I'm
hitting at a decent level. I think it's more a Voiceover thing
than anything. It appears based on all the testing I've done with
an experienced sighted person who knows a ton about audio
production, that it's Voiceover being dumb and not correctly
announcing the meter levels.
You wrote:
You clearly don't have the answer because you're searching for it
and it would take some deeper examination of what's going on to
figure out your issue.
OK that made no sense. If something is going wrong, isn't that
what one should do?... search and try to figure out the
answer? How can you examine anything to start with if you don't
search nor ask for what may be the cause?
You wrote:
I assure you that it has absolutely zero to do with Pro Tools itself.
I now agree. I think it's more a bug with Voiceover. When
sighted people have looked at my levels, I'm coming in around -14
to -12, which is absolutely perfect. However, on the actual mono
audio track itself which the mike is being recorded, when I sing
into the mike, as I'm doing so looking at the meter, according to
Voiceover, I'm peeking around -5 to -4 DB. So, at this time, the
only explaination that I have is Voiceover is being dumb. When I
used PT 10, I didn't change a single thing in my interface
software, nor did I change anything with the physical hardware
gain input dial on the channel through my interface, yet, in PT
10, the meter shows correctly.
You wrote:
It's software and has no bearing on your recording volume. The
problem is that you're dealing with some stuff that you don't
understand and you'll need to get a handle on it in order to solve the problem.
OK, what stuff then don't I understand? What stuff do I need to
research more thoroughly?
You wrote:
The quagmire is that it takes a lot of time to understand the
various aspects of the myriad of equipment and that's why there
are schools that teach audio engineering and production.
OK, but if you can't afford to go to one of those schools...
You wrote:
Of course, it's possible to learn this on your own but it can take
quite a long time.
Understandable.
You wrote:
Bottom line is, if you have a microphone going into an interface
and nothing else in between, there's no possible way your levels
can be at -4 dB FS.
For one thing, I know what -4DB means, but when you say DB FS,
what do you mean by FS? Maybe we're talking two different levels
here. Then again, nmaybe not? Secondly, let me go back to my
initial point. If indeed this is not ProTools related, and please
know, this isn't in any way meant to challenge you nor to be
rude/difficult, I'm just trying to understand your point from the
bigger picture. So, keep that in mind when reading what I'm about to ask.
If PT has nothing to do with it, which by the way, I'm in
agreement with you on at this point in time until proven
otherwise, then explain this to me... Why then is PT 10 with
Voiceover showing me something totally different than PT 11, when
my settings are absolutely 100% identical on both versions, I'm
running both on the same mac computer, so it's not like I'm on a
different workstation, same hardware, same interface, same
drivers, same software, same hardware wiring, same hookup, and all
my levels on PT, as well as on the interface itself haven't been
touched with a 12 foot poll, sota speak, yet I'm getting totally
completely different readouts between the two versions? That
almost indicates to me that there is an issue in PT 11.2 reading
the meaters, vs. in 10.0. This is why I asked a few messages back
in the thread if PT11 handled the meters a little differently, or
if it was an issue of Voiceover itself doing something odd.
You wrote:
I guarantee that there's another piece of gear that's causing you
to see levels that hot. I suggest you eliminate the variables and
figure the problem out that way.
All I have is my keyboard which is only running into the interface
via midi, so it can't be causing line levels, however, none the
less, I unplugged it and shut it off. I literally went as far as
to literally unplug it from the electrical power strip. I also
unplugged the midi in and out cords from both the keyboard and the
other ends of them from the interface. Essentially, I totally
unhooked the keyboard. I also unplugged my xlr cord from both my
microphone, as well as from the channel 1 input on my interface,
and even turned off phantom power. I even hit the 20DB padding
button on channel 1, to knotch it back 20DB just in case it was
hearing some electrical hiss/buzz noise, which is unlikely, but
you never know. Even doing all this, it did no baring. 10.0
still shows totally acceptible, whilst 11.2 isn't.
I should add that there are no sends, and no plugins on the audio
track in PT which are giving me this issue with the meter. I know
that the volume fader on the track is output not my input volume,
however, just to see if something wasn't set right, I ran that
fader all the way to minus infinity yet it had no baring. I even
muted the track. Again, I understand totally that is dealing with
output, not input, so that wouldn't have any effect. I know, I
know, I know. I did it just for the hell of it. I figure I had
nothing to lose.
Chris.
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