Hi,
Let me respectfully disagree here. I have never ever heard any developer 
mention breaking accessibility anywhere in any software, they just do it and so 
i upgrade religiously and if something breaks, i shake my head and just like 
the situation as we say in Sweden. We blind are such a tiny minority that the 
features we require to make products work very seldom gets mentioned. One thing 
though on the Windows side, when a developer said that their product had a 
"Brand spanking new interface that is more user friendly and easy to use" that 
almost always meant that accessibility had gone streight down the drain.
/Krister

> 30 aug 2014 kl. 04:24 skrev Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com>:
> 
> Hi, I do love pro tools and would not just give up on it because of this one 
> issue as like I said before I was able to download the update after following 
> the steps in the earlier email but was mainly saying that at least telling 
> Avid about these issues when we find them needs to be done more often so they 
> can at least know users have issues with the site.  I also think that just 
> installing updates and not first looking for release notes or for changes in 
> these updates is not the best thing as I always try to locate these documents 
> as sometimes installing an update can break accessibility or other things and 
> this is true for all software not just pro tools.  Nick Gawronski
> On 8/29/2014 6:08 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Chaps,
>> 
>> Just a quick thing. I'm obviously glad that the thread got solved and
>> the OP is up and running with the latest and greatest, but in the
>> least patronizing way possible, it's worth keeping in mind that such
>> reactive phrases as "Maybe i should give up on this entirely and do
>> something completely different with my life" or "I thought Avid was
>> for accessibility of it's products.  What would it take for them to
>> really not just say they care about accessibility but do something
>> about it?" would more often than not be terrible for the vibe on an
>> actual session working with actual people. NO doubt you'll think
>> that's a different environment, but really, whether coming a cropper
>> and getting stuck when you didn't expect to effects your chances of
>> scoring a returning customer on a paid job tends to be more about how
>> you react to the situation than the situation itself occurring. Let's
>> try to be calm/professional about it and save the unbridled passion
>> for the musical bits.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 8/29/14, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, This is why Avid really needs to be made aware of these
>>> accessibility issues with their web site as for brand new users these
>>> tasks are not the easiest things to do and I thought Avid was for
>>> accessibility of it's products.  What would it take for them to really
>>> not just say they care about accessibility but do something about it?  I
>>> would have called their phone number which I have in my pro tools 11
>>> upgrade email and explain these issues to them as yes for advanced users
>>> like me this is not tricky but really this is not something a new user
>>> is going to know how to do.  Nick Gawronski
>>> On 8/29/2014 1:26 PM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Glad it worked for you! ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> John André
>>>> 
>>>> On 29 Aug 2014, at 20:19, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi and thank you so much. That description solved my problem, and to
>>>>> people upgrading from 11.x to 11.2 please keep in mind that you have to
>>>>> click with the mouse "vo+shift+spacebar) in order to reveal the heading
>>>>> under which there's a link to show the downloads. It's a quite cumbersome
>>>>> and not obvious procedure as you probably noticed.:-)
>>>>> Again sorry for the frustrated mail that started this whole thread.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 29 aug 2014 kl. 19:20 skrev John André Lium-Netland
>>>>>> <eml...@a-pro-studio.no>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Krister,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I totally understand your frustration, AVID has done a couple of changes
>>>>>> on their web pages, and if you log in to your account and go to the page
>>>>>> you describe, it looks like there is no downloads available. But, even
>>>>>> though I've not figured out exactly what I did, I think I interacted
>>>>>> with the heading named Pro Tools 11 upgrade from PT 10 and clicked on
>>>>>> it. Next, there was a link under the heading named Downloads or
>>>>>> something like that, and if you interact with this heading there is a
>>>>>> link named Show there. If you click this link and stop interacting with
>>>>>> the heading, all the download links for Pro Tools 11.2 will be listed
>>>>>> there on the page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for the cryptic description, but I think I did things in this
>>>>>> order when I managed to download the update.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John André, Norway
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Aug 2014, at 18:34, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>> I must admit i think i never have been this angry before. I started my
>>>>>>> Protools 11.1.2 and got a software upgrade notice that told me a new
>>>>>>> Pro tools was available, v11.2.1. Nice i thought to myself and started
>>>>>>> the longish nightmare that's the Avid Web site. I even went so far as
>>>>>>> to create a so called master account but when i got into this account
>>>>>>> and looked at my products, it claimed that i didn't have a bloody
>>>>>>> upgrade after all, that is it said "Protools 11 upgrade from v10, 1
>>>>>>> product(s)" and nothing more, no indication that there was something to
>>>>>>> download, no links nada. So i go to the support which of course is paid
>>>>>>> so no help there and then i found this link from the knowledge base to
>>>>>>> something called "downloads and upgrades" and after many trials and
>>>>>>> tribulations got there and found the link to the "protools 11.2
>>>>>>> information and downloads". I clicked on this link only to be taken to
>>>>>>> the same announcement i had seen earlier in my software update and of
>>>>>>> course no download links instead there was a little note saying
>>>>>>> "Registered customers should log in to their accounts to get an
>>>>>>> installer" well duh, there is no damned installer to be found, not
>>>>>>> anywhere in my account space. Nada, nothing, zero, zip, zilch, nichts,
>>>>>>> not a thing. So what do i do now? I know i have the right to upgrade
>>>>>>> or rather update but when nothing can be seen, no installer at least,
>>>>>>> what do i do since support costs probably just as much as the damned
>>>>>>> protools itself.
>>>>>>> Sorry for the long rant but as you can tell i'm mighty frustrated.
>>>>>>> Maybe i should give up on this entirely and do something completely
>>>>>>> different with my life.
>>>>>>> /Krister
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