Hey slau, thanks. works just fine. Thanks also to mike. i will try that as well.

The whole thing would be easier with a control surface, but i think i should be 
able to get by with all this.

i guess the only other interesting question is this. is there any way of 
selecting all tracks for spiffic  tasks like say automation. Normally when i am 
mixing in sonar, i select all  tracks, and turn on automation. is this possible 
in protools, or do we need to go and physically select each track for 
automation individually.
Sorry about the endless amount of questions. I am almost ready to make the jump 
from sonar to protools in my studio. i think.
 just trying to think of things in my work flow that i may   need to accomplish 
when using tools. 

Steve
 
> On 24 Jan 2015, at 1:21 am, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> As expected, doing this with a control surface is simple but, since you don't 
> have access to one there, you'll need to improvise.
> 
> I'm used to having the option of writing to an entire selection but that 
> might be an HD feature, I'm not sure, to be honest. However, I think this 
> might work:
> 
> Select the range for which you want to write new volume automation.
> When you play back that section, your volume fader will reflect the written 
> volume automation level.
> Set your track's automation mode to Write.
> Set your volume fader to the desired volume level.
> Engage the transport for the duration of the selection.
> 
> 
> You should have the new automation level written now.
> 
> Control-Shift-up and down arrow commands are for clip gain, not for 
> automation.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> i’ve basically sussed out how to write and delete automation. only thing i 
>> can’t seem to work out is how to just an individual phraze that i may have 
>> selected 
>> i think i wrote a static pass of automation, but maybe i did not do i t 
>> correctly. although i’ve been over the instructions a couple of times.
>> i was also under the impression that control shift up and down arrow are key 
>> strokes to do this, but i can’t seem to get this to work either.
>> so what i’m getting is this. When i move the fader up and down it will write 
>> fine, but if i make a selection, and then move the fader to where i want for 
>> that specific point, how do i write the automation for that point only.can 
>> this be achieved after you have written automation to a track just to tidy 
>> things up. 
>> 
>> I have to do this without a control surface. I have the mackie universal 
>> control surface with an extender which is excellent. but i am working in 
>> broadcast as well and can not get my control surface down there, so i’ll 
>> have to do the best i can without one. Maybe i can convince them to buy one 
>> one day. but that’s a way off.
>> Steve
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