Wow, how long does it take to type all that, even if you're a fast typist?  

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> On Jan 31, 2015, at 13:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I dono...
> 
> I guess I have mixed feelings.  I agree with you on the one hand, but I also 
> agree with Mike.  October?  Really?
> 
> OK, look at it this way, no, the newer technology wouldn't necessarily be 
> implemented this way nor be totally up to date par, but! why couldn't pace 
> give us two options, since they're so insistant on making this new platform. 
> It seems logical to me, why not put the web interface manager back like it 
> was a few years ago when things worked flawlessly?  Put that back with those 
> A P I's, but then, also support a newer A P I which would let them build for 
> the current, and more updated software.  This way, if you are sighted and 
> want to use the software, more power to! ya!  But, if you're blind as most of 
> us! are, then you would have a fallback method which we still could use. I 
> understand completely that eventually, that old web based A P I needs to be 
> eventually rolled completely out, OK, I totally totally get that.  You might 
> not think I do, but actually, yes.  I do.  Trust me with this.  But, does it 
> not seem feezible to you all, that in the mingtime until they do! come up 
> with a way to get the new software working with good accessibility, they at 
> least! temporarily could re-enable the web interface as a fallback for people 
> like ourselves?  Look at things like the Sendspace wizard.  Now, you're 
> probably going and this has to do with the tea in China, how?  LOL! Hear me 
> out on this though, as I really am trying to present a legitimate argument 
> here.
> 
> The Sendspace wizard on the mac, by default is not very accessible at all. If 
> you've not tried it, trust me.  It's a living nightmare!  However, there is 
> an option in the menu bar which enables accessibility mode.  Once done, it 
> works... well... I'd not say perfectly, but I'd say almost! perfectly. What 
> about Tapin Radio on the Windows side of things.  For the longest time, they 
> had an option when installing that you could check if you were a screen 
> reader user.  If you check it, bam!  Tapin is now accessible.  If you don't, 
> then, good? freaking, luck!  You'll be sorry you didn't check it, believe me!
> 
> My point is, they were able to keep the inaccessible interface whilst hooking 
> seperet A P I's to allow an option to give accessibility mode.  If this is 
> the case, then surely you could also do the same by having multiple A P I's 
> with the ILok manager.  Maybe it's not that easy, and I by far am definitely! 
> not a programmer at heart, so really, honestly, in all fairness, who am I to 
> make such assumptions?  I do think though that if Pace really truely did! 
> want to fix things, though I'm not complaining as much as being very 
> realistic here, I truely think they could figure some alternative out. Even 
> if it was only temporary.
> 
> What I don't understand is why one minute, the guy in his letter from Pace 
> states maybe in the mingtime, they could look at redoing some of the older A 
> P I's to regain some accessibility.  But then, he says later on in the letter 
> that the 2.0 update will not have accessibility.  He flat out admits it!  
> Then said maybe by October, with version 3.0 they'd look into it.  OK, so, 
> are they going to give us back some A P I's, or not!  Make up their mind.  
> It's like being pregnant.  Either they are! going to, or, they're not! going 
> to.  They can't go both ways, that I know of.
> 
> I know I'm probably gonna get the F*** tiched outta me for this message, so 
> go ahead.  I can take the heat.  I'm voicing my true not so humble opinion. 
> If people have a problem with me doing so, then, frankly, with all due 
> respect, tough shit.  LOL!  I mean, really, I'm sorry to be so harshly blunt 
> saying that, but I tell it as I see it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheOreoMonster" <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Letter Update from Pace Anti-piracy
> 
> 
> How quickly we forget. There was a fair amount of work that went into PT 
> regarding modernizing and updating a lot of the code base to get to the point 
> where all that was needed to be done was label elements and buttons. Yes that 
> process went relatively quick once the Program got to a point where that 
> could be done. If memory serves correct it was at least a couple of years 
> in-between when initial processes started to when access labeling began. It 
> appears we are in the same holding pattern with pace at the moment.
>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mike Lockett <mloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> To everyone that sent a letter to the B-B-B or made a call to Pace,
>> Feel assured you are being heard.
>> Pace’s CEO E-O Allen Cornce in an email to Slau Halatyn made reference
>> to a complaint,
>> Quote, “What I don't agree with is the assertion that accessibility
>> support is simple and easy. If it was, we would have rolled it out and
>> been done with it ages ago.””
>> 
>> Personally I think its HOGWASH!!!
>> When accessibility is taken seriously and made a priority Avid
>> Technology is a perfect example things can get fix in an appropriate
>> time.
>> In Avid’s case their were a thousand moving parts in the UI of the Ap,
>> most of the accessibility issues were fixed in les than two months
>> once it became a priority.
>> Labeling some elements, and buttons should never take until October…
>> 
>> We may disagree on how to get this done,
>> but we agree it must be done…
>> 
>> If we keep working the back channels we will achieve our desired results.
>> In other words lets keep working.
>> For some of you who may disagree or for other reasons just can’t,
>> We will respect you.
>> 
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